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Written by: Gerry L on Jul 20, 2008 6:34 AM EDT

A good Sunday...all day through to you..!

Sunday~

***************round of articles about our domestic ‘issues’ ~July 20,  2008

Exclusive interview with Al Gore

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080248/

 Al Gore Makes Surprise Visit to Netroots Nation

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/337684

 thanks to Linda in SFNM for this…(forwarded with her permission!)

I participated in a Conference Call with Al Gore yesterday.  It was nice to hear him.  This was a follow up from his speech on Thursday, with his challenge to take the steps to develop all our energy from clean renewable sources in 10 years time.  He asked that we grow the membership

(Awareness) of the "WE" campaign, "WeCanSolveIt.org" (formerly the Alliance for Climate Protection).  Because if we show the many support this effort, we can get our government, i.e. Congress and the next president to put forth the policy needed.

Continuing the message that Climate Change doesn't have a political party, it was encouraging to have learned that Bob Barr, the now Libertarian, former Republican, candidate for President, personally attended Mr. Gore’s Environment and Energy speech in Constitution Hall on Thursday.  And as Mr. Gore has been too recognizing, John McCain's efforts and record on the environment and climate change, John McCain had encouraging words here as well.

"McCain said that while he and Gore might disagree on some aspects of climate change, he supports the goals Gore outlined for developing wind and solar "If the vice president says it's doable, I believe it's doable," McCain said."

So, if you can help spread the word to make sure folks sign on to solving the Climate Crisis, by joining the "WE" campaign, that gets us a step closer.  If you didn't have a chance to view Mr. Gore's speech, you can do so here,

Video:

http://wecansolveit.org/pages/al_gore_a_generational_challenge_to_repower_america/

 Get involved: become a member of the "WE" society. :)

http://wecansolveit.org/

Al Gore Inches Toward Solartopia

by Harvey Wasserman

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/07/19/10463/

Netroots Summit Grapples with Bipartisan Attacks on Rule of Law

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/337598

 Pelosi Tells Netroots Nation She Opposes Impeachment Because She's BiPartisan

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/34921 

The Scheme to Steal ‘08

Investigative journalist Greg Palast explains how the right has stolen recent elections and primaries and lays out a plan on how we can steal back our votes this November. Speaking at the 2008 Chicago Green Festival. Watch video here. 30 Min.
http://www.hearthevoices.com/j1/Palast.html

 New Attack on the Right to Vote
Kennedy, Palast Investigate

http://www.gregpalast.com/robert-kennedy-greg-palast-the-final-investigation/

Hear other ‘voices’….(really good collection of filmed lectures!)

http://www.hearthevoices.com/j1/

yep, that’s McCain he’s talking about…

It’s the Economic Stupidity, Stupid

By FRANK RICH

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/opinion/20rich.html?hp 

Economic Realities Are Killing Our Era of Fantasy Politics

By Matt Taibbi, RollingStone.com
http://www.alternet.org/story/91927/ 

New Hampshire Takes Chavez Up on Free Oil Offer

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20080719_new_hampshire_takes_chavez_up_on_free_oil_offer/

The Costs of War: The Parents' Agony

http://www.truthout.org/article/the-costs-war-the-parents-agony

U.S. Position Complicates Global Effort to Curb Illicit Arms

by C.J. Chivers

UNITED NATIONS - Diplomats from the world’s governments met throughout this week on agreements to cut the global illicit trade in small arms, but their work was curtailed in part by the near-boycott of the meetings by the United States.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/07/19/10470/

from and about ‘over there’ 

Bin Laden's driver is in the dock, but America's war on terror is on trial

The first military tribunal at Guantanamo Bay begins tomorrow. Its outcome will determine far more than the fate of a minor al-Qa'ida figure

By Leonard Doyle in Washington

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bin-ladens-driver-is-in-the-dock-but-americas-war-on-terror-is-on-trial-872413.html 

thanks to Philomena (DFC) for this…

UK 'must check' US torture denial

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7515517.stm

Brown plans to withdraw troops as he backs Obama over 'war on terror'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/brown-plans-to-withdraw-troops-as-he-backs-obama-over-war-on-terror-872388.html

War fears cast a shadow over Stalin's former playground

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/20/russia.georgia

Obama’s Visit Renews Focus on Afghanistan

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/us/politics/20obama.html?hp

Juan Cole reports on

Obama in Afghanistan

http://www.juancole.com/

Coalition 'bombs Afghan police'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7515915.stm

The Adventures of the Parasite Army

Why Afghanistan is Not the Good War

By RON JACOBS

http://www.counterpunch.org/jacobs07192008.html

Iraqi leader: US should leave as soon as possible

BERLIN -- Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki says U.S. troops should leave Iraq "as soon as possible," according to a magazine report, and he called presidential candidate Barack Obama's suggestion of 16 months "the right timeframe for a withdrawal."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/19/AR2008071901064.html

Sunnis rejoin Iraqi government, raising reconciliation hopes

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/44814.html

Iran given two-week deadline to end the nuclear impasse

Six-nation negotiating team at the United Nations warns Iran that it has run out of patience

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/20/iran.nuclear

Colombia and Brazil enter into military pact

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSN1933496120080720?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

Peace and Solidarity

Paramount among the responsibilities of a free press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people...

Hugo Black, Supreme Court Justice

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- Howard's first

By mary vb on Jul 20, 2008 10:20 AM EDT

Thanks to Linda in SFNM for forwarding the interviewl  Come back, Linda.

 

 

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- Gore has issued a great challenge worthy of a great effort.

By Phil Specht on Jul 20, 2008 10:26 AM EDT
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- Getting a toolbar

By Joan In Florida on Jul 20, 2008 10:47 AM EDT
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- Al Gore on MTP was

By Joan In Florida on Jul 20, 2008 10:51 AM EDT

 

absolutely the worst interview I have ever witnessed on MTP.

Tom Brokaw is obviously no Iim Russert. His questions and constant interruptions show that he lives in the past, a problem for many of the old timer "journalists" still competing out there.

NBC will need to keep looking for a decent replacement for Russert, that's a certain.

 

 

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- The Doctor Dean is in TEXAS

By Monica Smith on Jul 20, 2008 10:58 AM EDT

and he's going where next?  I think I heard Georgia.  LOL

 

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- The next shoe to drop in Iraq is that

By Monica Smith on Jul 20, 2008 11:04 AM EDT

they want all troops out--not just the combat forces.

What I'm wondering is which committee of the Senate is going to interview the next Secretary of the Air Force nominee.  That should be a good opportunity to raise questions about the radar, missile and satellite installations on the bases in Iraq.  How long will it take to dismantle these assets and where will they be redeployed?

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- That nominee

By Joan In Florida on Jul 20, 2008 11:14 AM EDT

will get off that hook by answering that he/she will leave it to some "experts" that will be employed for specifically for that job.

 

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By Joan In Florida on Jul 20, 2008 11:07 AM EDT

Thanks Gerri for all the links to the best of the best.

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- Mississippi

By * rdorgan on Jul 20, 2008 11:56 AM EDT

http://hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080720/OPINION01/807200331

Will Mississippi vote Democrat in race?

From staff reports • July 20, 2008

The last time Mississippi supported a Democratic candidate for president, the United States was celebrating its 200th birthday. For years now, many have thought it might be another 200 years before the state becomes blue territory.

But that could change this year, with Barack Obama leading the Democrats' ticket and a baggage-laden John McCain carrying the GOP banner.

If Mississippi does vote Democratic in November, it will be largely due to Obama and national party boss Howard Dean.

Obama, seeking to break the White House racial barrier, has brought the most excitement to a presidential campaign since John Kennedy in 1963.

As for Dean, it would be unwise for the Republicans to underestimate what he has done for the Democratic Party. Get past the stupid "yee-haw" screaming speech he made during his unsuccessful 2004 run for the White House.

He has made this a 50-state campaign instead of, as previous candidates did, writing off the Deep South as a red region.

"The South is changing and so is the Democratic Party," Dean told reporter Hattiesburg

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- Yeeaannn!!!!

By audrey.nc on Jul 20, 2008 12:35 PM EDT

Dean never made a "stupid scream speech".   The
Media made it.    Dean, in his own disapointment, tried to console his troops in a heartwarming way, and the Media turned it into something negative.

I love the "scream", and it ought to punctuate every  "WE CAN",  like, "YES WE CAN....YEEEAHHH!!!!"

OBAMA/DEAN


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- Eyes on the Prize

By Tom Bearse on Jul 20, 2008 12:08 PM EDT

From Frank Rich today in the New York Times, a reminder of why there is no comparison possible between a progressive candidate like Obama, who reaches across party lines to achieve concensus on critical issues, and a reactionary nut like McCain, who makes a mockery of true political independence by leading the press around on a leash.  In turn, they put out noisome puff pieces of propaganda to make gullible readers and listeners somehow think McCain has even one moderate bone in his body.  Some excerpts follow:

The best thing to happen to John McCain was for the three network anchors to leave him in the dust this week while they chase Barack Obama on his global Lollapalooza tour. Were voters forced to actually focus on Mr. McCain’s response to our spiraling economic crisis at home, the prospect of his ascension to the Oval Office could set off a panic that would make the IndyMac Bank bust in Pasadena look as merry as the Rose Bowl.

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Mr. McCain still doesn’t understand that we can’t send troops to Afghanistan unless they’re shifted from Iraq. But simple math, to put it charitably, has never been his forte. When it comes to the central front of American anxiety — the economy — his learning curve has flat-lined.

In 2000, he told that he would make up for his lack of attention to “those issues.” As he entered the 2008 campaign, Mr. McCain was still saying the same, vowing to read “Greenspan’s book” as a tutorial. Last weekend, the resolutely analog candidate told The New York Times he is at last starting to learn how “to get online myself.” Perhaps he’ll retire his abacus by Election Day.

Mr. McCain’s fiscal ineptitude has received so little scrutiny in some press quarters that his chief economic adviser, the former Senator Phil Gramm of Texas, got a free pass until the moment he self-immolated on video by whining about “a nation of whiners.” The McCain-Gramm bond, dating back 15 years, is more scandalous than Mr. Obama’s connection with his pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Mr. McCain has been so dependent on Mr. Gramm for economic policy that he sent him to newspaper editorial board meetings, no doubt to correct the candidate’s numbers much as Joe Lieberman cleans up after his confusions of Sunni and Shia.

Just two weeks before publicly sharing his thoughts about America’s “mental recession,” Mr. Gramm laid out equally incendiary views in a Wall Street Journal profile that portrayed him as “almost certainly” the McCain choice for Treasury secretary. Mr. Gramm said that the former chief executive of AT&T, Ed Whitacre, was “probably the most exploited worker in American history” since he received only a $158 million pay package rather than the “billions” he deserved for his success in growing Southwestern Bell.

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The term flip-flopping doesn’t do justice to Mr. McCain’s self-contradictory economic pronouncements because that implies there’s some rational, if hypocritical, logic at work. What he serves up instead is plain old incoherence, as if he were compulsively consulting one of those old Magic 8 Balls. In a single 24-hour period in April, Mr. McCain went from saying there’s been “great economic progress” during the Bush presidency to saying “Americans are not better off than they were eight years ago.” He reversed his initial condemnation of mortgage bailouts in just two weeks.

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- so it won't be the Brandenburg Gate ...

By * rdorgan on Jul 20, 2008 12:15 PM EDT
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- ... it will be the Victory Column instead -- that's fine

By * rdorgan on Jul 20, 2008 12:28 PM EDT

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080720/ids_photos_india_wl/ra197342937.jpg/

A general view shows Berlin's landmarks - the Victory column ...

A general view shows Berlin's landmarks - the Victory column and the Brandenburg Gate - as revellers enjoy the start of the 'Love Parade' event in this July 15, 2006 file picture. Obama's campaign confirmed on Sunday he will deliver a speech this week at the Victory Column in Berlin's Tiergarten Park.<cite id="captionCite">REUTERS/Fabrizio Bensch/Files</cite>

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- Hey Jo I just want to say that I agree 100% with your comment at the end of the last thread

By Denise in San Mateo County on Jul 20, 2008 12:41 PM EDT

At least Obama doesn't look at Afghanistan with dollar signs in his eyes.

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- Obama, Dean: What's the Difference?

By Tom Bearse on Jul 20, 2008 12:56 PM EDT

Your views and those of Jo are shared by Chairman Dean, who said to no less a buffoon than Chris Wallace on Fox News in January 2006 that:

I personally believe there are not enough troops in Afghanistan, and I have for some time. There's a report out written in part by Lawrence Korb, who's a former Reagan defense official, which calls for the redeployment of American troops. And one of the things he calls for is fewer troops in Iraq and sending some of those to Afghanistan. Those kinds of things I think are good.

I was very appreciative of the work that we did attacking the Al Qaeda in northwest Pakistan. I thought that was a good idea. We need to be really tough with these terrorists. And I think there needs to be more attempts at the Al Qaeda leadership, and that was the big problem with Iraq.

That's why I objected to going into Iraq in the first place, is because I thought it was — the president took his eye off the ball in terms of attacking terror.

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- I tire of people whose "ideal world" does not include realty

By Denise in San Mateo County on Jul 20, 2008 1:10 PM EDT
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By Tom Bearse on Jul 20, 2008 1:14 PM EDT

John is fond of quoting authors on Counterpunch to take swipes at the foreign policy positions of Sen. Obama, so I'll take this opportunity in the interests of fairness and accuracy to quote one, Sean Donahue,  on the subject of Gov. Dean's related views.  You'll note the oddly familiar ring to Donahue's polemic.  John calls this a straw man argument, most likely because full disclosure makes him appear to be somewhat selective, and therefore hypocritical, in his criticism:

In television ads and presidential debates, Dean has emphasized his opposition to Bush's decision to launch a unilateral invasion of Iraq--and downplaying his support for the continued U.S. military occupation of Iraq, and his earlier waffling over whether he might have supported a war in Iraq under slightly different conditions. Dean's emphasis on his opposition to the war in Iraq also obscures his earlier support for the first Gulf War, the war in Kosovo, and the war in Afghanistan.

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Dean comes from the centrist wing of the Democratic Party, and draws his advisors from the party's establishment, even though he tries to portray himself as a progressive and an outsider. His opposition to the war in Iraq isn't rooted in the moral vision or poltical analyis of the peace movement, but rather in the foreign policy establishment's skepticism about the rash and impulsive nature of the Bush administration's military actions in Iraq. In remarks to the Council on Foreign Relations last June, Dean said that: "America must not shy away from its role as the remaining superpower in the world. We are, as Madeleine Albright once put it, the "indispensable power" for so many challenges around the world. Inevitably, some will resent us for what we have, and some will hate us for what we believe. But there is much in the world that we cannot achieve on our own. So we must lead toward clearly articulated and shared goals and with the cooperation and respect of friends and allies."

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Howard Dean admits that the war in Iraq was a mistake but he supports the underlying policy positions that led to the war. As much as we might want to believe that changing presidents will change the U.S. role in the world, replacing George Bush with Howard Dean would do little or nothing to advance the peace movement's goals.

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- So easy to forget.

By Tom Bearse on Jul 20, 2008 1:29 PM EDT

Here is Gov. Dean speaking in August 2003, as reported by Fred Hiatt in the Washington Post:

It's true that he opposed the war in Iraq, he says, but he supported the 1991 Gulf War and the Bush campaign against the Taliban in Afghanistan. More interesting, at a time when many politicians are shuddering at President Bush's ambitions to remake the Middle East -- conservatives, because they are skeptical of such grand reshaping ambitions; liberals, because they see resources being diverted from social causes at home -- Dean sounds if anything more committed than Condoleezza Rice to bringing democracy to Iraq.

..."We have no choice. It's a matter of national security. If we leave and we don't get a democracy in Iraq, the result is very significant danger to the United States." And "bringing democracy to Iraq is not a two-year proposition.

Dean is almost as sweeping about Afghanistan, where "losing the peace is not an option" and "pulling out early would be a disaster." Five times the current level of troops are needed, he said. "Imagine making deals with warlords to promote democracy. What are these people thinking?"

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By seashell on Jul 20, 2008 1:35 PM EDT

The top dems who don't wish to prosecute bushco include:  keeping the record straight.

Cass Sunstein, an adviser to Barack Obama from the University of Chicago Law School, cautioned against prosecuting criminal conduct from the current Administration. Prosecuting government officials risks a "cycle" of criminalizing public service, he argued, and Democrats should avoid replicating retributive efforts like the impeachment of President Clinton--or even the "slight appearance" of it. Update: Sunstein emailed to emphasize that he also said and believes that "egregious crimes should not be ignored."

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Soooooo, Afghan is a "good war" as long as BO is heading it up?  I disagree.  People down here are hoping BO, as prez, will get us outta the ME and help stabilize the world's economy.

And Pelosi is now  bi-partisan?  ROFL

the road from Afghan leads to Pakistan...a worsening nightmare!!

Gore/Dean/Obama   Three presidents sharing power.  Isn't it time we recognize that one man alone is not healthy for us?  Or maybe a Parliament would be better for us at this point in time

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- More Expertise

By Tom Bearse on Jul 20, 2008 1:37 PM EDT

Let's learn wisdom at the feet of Glenn Greenwald.  We've been instructed that he is the sage expert whose advice deserves our attention. Here's an excerpt from his Salon column in February 2007:

Of course, one of the principal pragmatic criticisms of the invasion of Iraq from the beginning has been that it would divert our military resources and prohibit us from stabilizing Afghanistan and truly defeating the Taliban and Al Qaeda -- as we promised we would do and as our security required. As but one of countless examples, the frivolous, unserious, soft-on-terrorism Howard Dean warned in February, 2003, when explaining his reasons for opposing the invasion:

"What happened to the war against al Qaeda? Why has this Administration taken us so far off track? I believe it is my patriotic duty to urge a different path to protecting America's security: To focus on al Qaeda, which is an imminent threat. . . . We must follow through on our commitments in Afghanistan to prevent that troubled land from ever again serving as a base for terrorism."

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- Where did anyoneo say that the military action in Afghanistan was good only if Barack is heading it up? Where was that stated?

By Denise in San Mateo County on Jul 20, 2008 7:25 PM EDT

Did you read Tom's post about how Howard felt about going to Afghanistan several years ago?  Or did you just scroll over information that might keep you from asking rhetorical, and incorrect, questions and surmisations.

And what really is bi-partisan?  I'd say Indy's are a good example since they seem to be able to weigh both sides before they make such an important decision such as voting.

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- This Advisor needs to go

By publius on Jul 20, 2008 9:52 PM EDT

 

So which is it?
What crimes does Sunstein rate as non-eggrarious?

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By publius on Jul 20, 2008 9:53 PM EDT

 make that non-egregious

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- and I do hope the whole myth about corporation donating to campaigns was put to resthere yesterday

By Denise in San Mateo County on Jul 20, 2008 1:13 PM EDT
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- calling my flight. Good day all

By Denise in San Mateo County on Jul 20, 2008 1:16 PM EDT
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By seashell on Jul 20, 2008 1:38 PM EDT

I doubt that was put to rest, Denise.

This article is so sad, there are no words.

FOCUS | Women Hardest Hit by Food Crisis
http://www.truthout.org/article/women-hardest-hit-food-crisis
Kevin Sullivan, of The Washington Post: "Rubbing her red-rimmed eyes, chewing lightly on a twig she picked off the ground, Lingani gave the last of her food to the children. 'I'm not hungry,' she said. In poor nations, such as Burkina Faso in the heart of West Africa, mealtime conspires against women. They grow the food, fetch the water, shop at the market and cook the meals. But when it comes time to eat, men and children eat first, and women eat last and least."

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- seashell wrote:

By Tom Bearse on Jul 20, 2008 1:39 PM EDT

"I doubt that was put to rest, Denise."

So, then, it's your position that corporations may contribute to individual candidates for office?

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By Phil Specht on Jul 20, 2008 1:52 PM EDT

They just hire lobbyists who bundle the cash and do it for them.

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- Phil wrote:

By Tom Bearse on Jul 20, 2008 1:52 PM EDT

"[Corporations] just hire lobbyists who bundle the cash and do it for them."

Thanks for helping put to rest the myth that corporations donate to campaigns.  This obviously makes a pledge against accepting contributions from federally registered lobbyists an important hedge against influence peddling.

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- Actually, I'm more and more inclined to think

By Monica Smith on Jul 20, 2008 3:15 PM EDT

that the corruption originates on the other side--that public officials have learned to hold corporate interests hostage and extort various "contributions" even as they off-load their responsibilities to the public via "privatization."  I don't think corporations came up with the idea of taking over functions that were never designed to generate a profit.  Rather, it was public officials who offered that they would guarantee a profit via regulation, if the corporations would take the onerous responsibilities off their hands.

I can still remember the glee with which the County Commission rid itself of the County Hospital.  Perhaps the fact that they were mandated, as a government entity to provide access to all applicants, regardless of race, had something to do with it.  But the overt rationale was better service and greater efficiency.  Neither of which, we now know from hard experience, materialized. And really wasn't realistic considering you were moving from a not-for-profit to a profit making model.  Never mind that making a profit off of illness and disease is fundamentally immoral.

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- Good point - and lobbyists are often split close to even between the parties. They lobby for action but Monica has found the root of such action - politician's demand for it.

By Denise in San Mateo County on Jul 20, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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- You really expected a logical reasoning for this statement?

By Denise in San Mateo County on Jul 20, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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- The WFP and other agencies have pumped in millions of dollars' worth of aid and food, and markets generally are well-stocked - just prohibitively expensive.

By Phil Specht on Jul 20, 2008 1:50 PM EDT

the global food crisis is an economic crisis, there is not a world food shortage. the fall of the dollar, which was caused by the Great Heist Tax Cut, caused global inflation

the Bushco Cabal literally took the food out of people's mouths to shovel the loot to America's most privileged who have never gone hungry a day in their lives

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- poor management

By Monica Smith on Jul 20, 2008 3:05 PM EDT

That's what it's always been.  Not enough storage; not enough transport; not enough processing for future use.

But, underneath it all, there's a conviction that some humans deserve to be in an exalted state and that, for them to be in that state, the majority of the human population needs to be subservient.  And the only way to guarantee subservience is to make it a condition of their survival.  In other words, the threat of starvation is the tool of autocrats.  And, oddly enough, the concept of private property actually feeds into it.

It used to be argued that the individual ownership of property will insure that it is well-managed.  But history provides no evidence of that.  The human proclivity towards waste is not mitigated by ownership.

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