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Take the Bus

Written by: DFA Staff on Jul 3, 2008 8:30 PM EDT

On and off for ten years, I lived in Los Angeles.  And, like millions of other Angelenos I drove.  Los Angeles is definitely a car city, but there is a public transportation system.  There are buses and even a subway.  The problem is that none of the infrastructure of this mass transit system fully and effectively allows for the elimination of the car.

For example, to get from where I last lived to where I worked was a 20 minute drive during off-peak hours, a one hour drive during rush hour, but a two hour commute by bus.  And that was if the bus was on time and I caught all the connections.  As much as I would want to use it, the bus was just not a practical option.

With gas prices getting higher and higher, Americans are driving less and using public transportation more.  From McClatchy:

Evidence already is mounting of a wholesale change in the way Americans commute. Motorists have driven roughly 30 billion fewer miles over the last six months compared with the same period a year ago, according to federal government estimates. Meanwhile, commuters took 10.3 billion trips on public transportation last year, the most in 50 years — when the population was about 60 percent the current size — according to the American Public Transportation Association. Ridership is up 3.3 percent in the first three months of 2008 and 30 percent since 1995.

Both trends suggest that growing numbers of Americans are reaching their tipping points in how much they'll spend for the freedom and luxury of personal automobile transportation.

I would love to see all of this result in a real investment in mass transit.  An investment that would allow us to break free of the car.  An investment that meets the needs of not just urban dwellers, but also people who live in the suburbs or rural areas.  Public transportation addresses concerns connected with our dependence on foreign oil and global warming.  It is a shame we had to reach $4 a gallon gas to figure all this out.

Danny
Communications Director

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By Jessica Falker on Jul 3, 2008 8:59 PM EDT

Dean is first!

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- Freedom and luxury are an illusion

By Monica Smith on Jul 3, 2008 9:39 PM EDT

The personal automobile restricts individual mobility not just by requiring that an individual have money, eye-sight, co-ordination and time to spare (although some people talk while directing the automobile with hands and feet, there's not much else one can do while moving from place to place (even on a horse one can herd cattle), but by defining where the vehicle is permitted to transit (designated roadways) and when (as traffic control signals mandate).  While a public transit vehicle also follows a fixed route, the individual is able to enter and exit at will and continue on his/her own hook on foot.

There have been efforts in recent years to inhibit pedestrian traffic and, on the other hand, mandate that the individual not come to a halt in certain venues, but that's been found unconstitutional.  Efforts to "regulate" public assemblies in public venues are on-going, but, as often as not, found to be invalid by the courts.  The individual right to travel is one of our basic attributes as mobile creatures.

This, btw, is a topic that has been frequently covered on the blog.  But, it's always important because the right to move around freely is always subject to challenge by authoritarians and fascists.  Much effort has gone into convincing us that migratory humans are a nuissance.  Many of the areas of controversy, such as North Africa and the Middle East, are examples of migrants coming in conflict with settled populations.  Historians have provided us with the thesis that people move in response to a crisis or need in their native environment and this has led to the suggestion that, if we provide for all their physical needs, people will be content to stay put.  This does not, of course, explain why our corporate moguls keep jetting around the globe.  (It's quite likely that neither the moguls or the migrants perceive themselves as relocating and see themselves as globally at home).

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By Phil Specht on Jul 3, 2008 10:22 PM EDT

and of course was right on topic too Annilow

as is the power of real estate developers in politics because of the way we finance campaigns in this country, but if I bring up rich's progressive agenda about the need to have public financing before we can have "public" anything else, it will be off to the water cooler

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- Reposted for Phil

By DFA Staff on Jul 3, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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- Captain May I?

By Phil Specht on Jul 3, 2008 10:25 PM EDT

will you allow a conversation about how campaigns are financed by real estate developers who have used political connections to bring our urban areas into their present unusable state?

nothing else has more bearing on the lack of a workable transit system

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- Both Clinton campaigns and Al Gores had white papers for handouts at their state HQ's

By Phil Specht on Jul 3, 2008 10:31 PM EDT

and Al Gore had a fantastic take on the broader issues of landscapewide planning that would lead to rational transportation systems

I'll see if I can find a copy to link to, and thanks for recognizing that The Economist might have something intelligent to say on the subject of human movement.

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- I sold my car and took the bus for about 11 years

By Jo*in*Vermont on Jul 3, 2008 10:47 PM EDT

I have a small car now and, like Danny, it saves me hours per week and a handful of dollars to drive rather than take the bus.

thanks for the kind words back there Pat - I'm glad I caught them, because they'll probably be lost forever soon.  and I think you write much more clearly than I do... ;)

yes - lost forever thanks to the watercooler - I get it now.  it's a trashcan, created to cleanse the blog of any off-topic posts - it may be hours after they're posted, but off to the watercooler they go, to be 'dumped' in the trash heap of non-history, on schedule, forever and ever.  I went back to check for responses on the overnights and masses of the posts I had read and responded to were gone - I suppose some of you already caught on to this today, but I haven't had the time to scroll today's threads yet.

so DFA is doing a cleansing, not ethnic but a cleansing of diversity, of individuality.  no more off-the-cuff stopping in to post a link or two one thinks may be important to share.  no more off-the-cuff sharing the tale of your trip to the store tonight and how you spoke to this right leaning couple and had an engaging conversation which left them thinking just a bit differently.  no more off-the-cuff sharing of invaluable campaigning skills and caucus tips - no more off-the-cuff cheerleading and encouraging those of us who have decided to run for office for the very first time.   absolutely no more off-the-cuff - it's going to be controlled from the top down and the only time you can do these things without your words disappearing is if the MAIN THREAD IS ON THAT TOPIC.  there are a lot of wonderful things about Democracy for America, but this act shames and overshadows all that you've done, all that you do.  this organization's ignorance is a shadow on Howard Dean's hard work.  this organization's ignorance is a shame to his legacy.  how very undemocratic and how very stupid.  Howard would most likely be surprised and appalled.  I know I am.

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- For Danny and Charles

By Phil Specht on Jul 3, 2008 10:43 PM EDT

politics is not about indiviual topics that stand alone, it is about building a community of people who join together in trust, that those closest to a particular issue or another will do the right thing, and so those things that seem totally off topic to you like the conversations about fishing, between say Reed and I or Charles in Montana might seem totally off topic, til you realize that the Democratic takeover of Montana revolved around the issue of "public" access and a clean environment (fishing in that case)which is directly related to building an environmentally conscious electorate that will vote in other "public" interests like transits

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- Exactly!!!

By Reed in V T on Jul 3, 2008 11:51 PM EDT

Phil...I'm heading out fishing next week now that you mention it. Going over to the NH seacoast for stripers & engaging in political conversation with fellow fisherman...one to one is where you change the most minds. Hope all is well with the one armed supervisor.

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- Hi Phil - exactly!

By Jo*in*Vermont on Jul 3, 2008 11:00 PM EDT

it appears they're going to make sure that the important off topic stuff gets flushed away just like a troll's comments...  I never imagined I'd be equal to a troll on Howard Dean's blog.  I guess that's the problem - it hasn't been 'Howard's' blog for a long time, just 'his' bloggers.

Puddle's suggestion was an excellent one

http://howardempowered.blogspot.com/

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- There is no public transportation where I live

By Marty S on Jul 3, 2008 11:19 PM EDT
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- Me neither. . . .

By puddle on Jul 4, 2008 12:44 AM EDT

But I drive a 14 year old Escort wagon that gets nearly 40 mpg.  My footprint is pretty small.  And I'm very happy about that.

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- Happy Independence Day everyone

By Jo*in*Vermont on Jul 3, 2008 11:32 PM EDT

it's the perfect time to declare... my independence from BFA. no, I'm not leaving the blog, the blog left me. in a trash heap. I will not be a part of this.

whomever you may be, bfa blog gods, you've won.

for those who care to stay in touch, earthtoyouatburlingtontelecomdotnet

thanks for sharing and for being such a bright, engaging and inspiring group. you are indeed what first gave me hope for our country after the emptiness and sadness of 9/11 and the growing horror of Bush... {{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}

;)

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By Annilow on Jul 3, 2008 11:31 PM EDT

Jo I hope you come back and fight with us.

The blog nanny must have turned in for the night :~)

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- The DNC blog appears to be closing down comments also

By floridagal . on Jul 3, 2008 11:36 PM EDT

DFA and DNC. Both blogs drastic change.

I am so discouraged. One Dean related blog where I used to post doesn't like the controversy I cause.

I guess....never mind.

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- You've been missed. And dat's da troot.

By puddle on Jul 4, 2008 12:56 AM EDT
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- Look at the DNC blog...where it used to be

By floridagal . on Jul 3, 2008 11:40 PM EDT

http://dnc.org/blog.html

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By Annilow on Jul 3, 2008 11:53 PM EDT
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- Ha!

By puddle on Jul 4, 2008 12:55 AM EDT

I remember when it was a badge of honor for Deaniacs to get themselves banned at the DNC blog. . . .  Them wuz the days.  Before DFA got all up tight and anal retentive, lol!

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By Annilow on Jul 3, 2008 11:55 PM EDT

I'm not getting your point flagal?

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- pont about what, annilow

By floridagal . on Jul 4, 2008 12:56 AM EDT

About the blogs?

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- jc ~~

By puddle on Jul 4, 2008 1:09 AM EDT

What do you do when the trolls OWN the blog, lol!?

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- I live in a very rural area. There is no public transportation here. But the area's Indian gaming casino does pick up folks in the larger urban areas to bus them in.

By Susan Rowe on Jul 4, 2008 1:17 AM EDT

The casino offers wonderful Senior Citizen discounts on food and the slots.  There is plenty of clean air fresh in the foothills. And the casinos are fully air conditioned. It's better than shuffleboard on a hot day in California's Central Valley.  And I do mean hot!

 

The bus system in Fresno totally sucks.  They had free yellow bikes for folks to use for awhile but they all got stolen.  There really is too much urban sprawl in the Central Valley for public transportation to be of any value.  It was planned to be that way.  Folks just love their SUVs, pickups and cars around here.

 

High-speed rail might be a good idea for those who commute from the Central Valley to Los Angeles, Bakersfield, Sacramento or the San Francisco/Bay Area.  The cost of airline travel in and out of Fresno is very expensive.  My hubby and I have several friends who charter planes for traveling to court and depositions.  Chartering a plane is less expense and it also cuts down on the commute time.

 

I lived in LA too for well over 6 years. I rode the bus to work for awhile but the commute time was ridiculous. It took me over an hour to get about 20 blocks up Wilshire everyday. If I walked I got there a lot faster. 

 

The subway system was very dirty in LA and dangerous to use especially if you're a woman.  I had friends who were mugged on their way to and from their cars that were parked in the bank's secure parking garage where we worked in Beverly Hills.  I would never suggest riding on the LA subway system to anybody. And if your a woman I would not suggest that you travel or walk the streets alone, not even in Beverly Hills in the middle of the day.  And you should never take the same route to and from work everyday. You should probably have about three or four ways to get to work and interchange them around. I was trained by the FBI to watch a crowd and some various other survival techniques they teach.  It was just part of being in banking and living in the big city.

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- your a woman s/b you're a woman

By Susan Rowe on Jul 4, 2008 2:57 AM EDT

Sorry about the wasted space.  I'm not sure why that happen.

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