First again...........I going to bed.

Deans are first always.

This from a diary over at Daily Kos. Why are so many of Clinton's supporters complete asses? What an endorsement.

Bob Kerrey endorsed Hillary Clinton today. But that's not why he's an ass.

gobacktotexas's diary :: ::
It was the way he endorsed Hillary that blows:

"Even before John Edwards was chasing ambulances in North
Carolina and Barack was voting ‘present’ in the Illinois state senate," Senator Clinton was involved in major policy initiatives, he said.

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Alzheimer's affects 700,000 Britons

It appears to tackle one of the main features of the disease - inflammation in the brain.

The drug, called Enbrel, is injected into the spine where it blocks a chemical responsible for damaging the brain and other organs.

A pilot study carried out by U.S. researchers found one patient had his symptoms reversed "in minutes".

Other patients have shown some improvements in symptoms such as forgetfulness and confusion after weekly injections over six months.

The study of 15 patients with moderate to severe Alzheimer's has just been published in the Journal of Neuroinflammation by online publishers Biomed Central.

The experiment showed that Enbrel can deactivate TNF (tumour necrosis factor) - a chemical in the fluid surrounding the brain that is found in Alzheimer's sufferers.

When used by arthritis sufferers, the drug is self-administered by injection and researchers had to develop a way of injecting it into the spine to affect the brain cells.

Sue Griffin, a researcher at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, said: 'It is unprecedented to see cognitive and behavioural improvement in a patient with established dementia within minutes of therapeutic intervention.

'This gives all of us in Alzheimer research a tremendous new clue

Oh yes, Kerrey, one of the complicit *let's cover up what really happened on 9/11* guys. 

11:32EST

no blogging for me in the morning as I have to go to the Madison airport with my son and be up at four to get the chores done so good nite all 10:34 CST 

UK Daily Mail | January 10, 2008

U.S. warplanes dropped 40,000 pounds of bombs on more than 40 targets on Baghdad's southern outskirts this morning in a major strike on al Qaeda safe havens, the military said in a statement.

The U.S. Air Force dispatched two B-1 bombers and four F-16 fighter jets, aiming at three large target areas in Arab Jabour, an area of date palm groves that has become a haven for al Qaeda fighters driven out of other areas.

The attack was described as part of Operation Phantom Phoenix, a countrywide offensive against al Qaeda guerrillas that U.S. forces launched this week.

Air strikes on such a large scale have been rare in Iraq, especially over the past few months when the intensity of military action tapered off as overall violence declined.

http://hypem.com/track/463228     Electric Light Orchestra - Turn to Stone         http://armagideontime.blogspot.com/2008/01/friday-night-fights-murder-diva.html

can you say          genocide?

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No. Not at all. Some call it war.       Thunderclap Newman Something In The Air

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV6qAGigGYY watch this boston globe report on nh

can you say          genocide?

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No. Not at all. Some call it war.  call it what it is!!!!!! you think the bombs are missing  the little kids and there mothers and daddy your a sick fuck!!!!!!!!!!

Interesting stuff going on with the New Hampshire vote.   People saying it was Ron Paul who was cheated....and McCain didn't get the votes. Don't know if this has been posted, but here's a sample that does look strange with Paul and McCain:  

http://yannone.blogspot.com/2008/01/new-hampshire-election-fraud.html

Here's what a New Hampshire blogger said on 'hand count vs. diebold':   "No, no, and no. I'm a born and bred New Hampshire, one who is interested in both candidates, and I'll tell you right now: this doesn't fit the political profile of New Hampshire. We're genuinely one of the squeakiest-clean states when it comes to corruption. The big-city-rural-debate makes much more sense here. Look at the map at the NY Times on where Obama was popular--out in the western part of the state by Keene--VERY rural besides Keene--and right up the river to Canada--VERY rural, excluding Hanover, which is not really a city either. Lots of hand counting.
Take your conspiracy theories elsewhere,"

This election is going to get rough.....Kerry in his new book as reported on McLaughlin Group, "The only things the Clintons care about is themselves and power"

No Dan - I am not a "sick fuck."  You're very emotional.  Relax, I know you are upset.

http://hypem.com/track/458214       Gorillaz - Kids With Guns (Hot Chip Remix)

per last

http://bridgingtheatlantic.blogspot.com/2008/01/hot-chip-hot-single.html

Moyers on now...separating fact from fiction on the campaign trail.

I don't think there is a moral lesson in your posted "parable," Dan.  I don't think it reflects morality.  Where is the virtue?

http://www.alternet.orgGeorge Carlin: "It's Called the American Dream Because You Have To Be Asleep to Believe It" [VIDEO]/blogs/video/61955

And Dennis Kucinich on tv tonight said "it isn't about Senator Obama or Senator Clinton'.....maybe Dennis wants to 'blow the lid off' the Republican Diebold fix. ?  We're all distracted with Hillary getting more votes than the 'media' expected....

I don't think there is a moral lesson in your posted "parable," Dan.  I don't think it reflects morality.  Where is the virtue?   wait till they take your job!!!!!!!!feed your kids some moral thats a good virtue! fell to see the big piture,

I like Carlin.  Always have, and I have been aware of him since the early 70's or sooner.  Watching you posted clip I am reminded of what my parents would knowingly ask me, which I couldn't put my finger on, "Who are they?"

But, did they know?  Seems to me, NOT.

Nothing wrong w/Obama's strategic reproductive votes while in the IL Senate (Rovian smear by Billary's campaign):

http://tinyurl.com/3yh383

http://tinyurl.com/yo4njs

She might wanna 'splain "ending welfare as we know it" to working class and low income women of color (parenting their own children is not longer a "countable work activity").

Same w/Obama--rhetoric means nothing to women...where's the MONEY????

Ahem...can't glorify the 19th century Cult of True Womanhood (unpaid labor, thanks) w/someone who also claims that she only "found her voice" this past week.

WTF

Doesn't work that way.

After presumable 35 yrs. of "change" from Billary, why isn't the Equal Pay Act of *1963* being enforced, hmmmmmmmm?

She spewed mamby-pamby rhetoric last week concerning Family Medical Leave Act; which "allows" unpaid time off in the waged work sector (to both sexes, but it's women who're typically saddled w/freebie caregiving of children and elders).

Women lose over $1.5M over their lifetimes w/all this freebie labor (which includes volunteerism of any sort).

I do NOT care for the "communitarianism" crap of Obama's.

I'm a free thinking Atheist, thanks...my personal life/leisure time belongs to Moi.

Certainly not while on the brink of recession and mass foreclosures.

Again--WTF?

S.C.'s gonna be *ugly* next week. Intersections of race, class, and gender.

The DNC inbox SPAM (just today=four) has been beyond reproach--by someone who resides locally.

She needs to be grateful that I'm not responding to her until morning!

The [un]democratic party has tossed its low income (working and blue collar class base) into the gutter...left' 'em for dead.

That sh^tty minimum wage bill they're so proud about is insulting as hell. Not at all livable.

DANIEL ROONEY

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Dan, I know "illegals"

I don't want "illegals" here

It isn't personal, it's just wrong

Music icon Carlos Santana has been blending salsa, rock, blues and jazz for more than four decades and has won more than 70 awards, including 11 Grammys. His son, Salvador, started playing music at age 6 and eventually joined the family business, combining Latin rhythms and hip-hop vocals. The father-son duo has collaborated on several projects, including the Grammy-winning track 'El Farol' from Santana's album "Supernatural" and 'Open up Your Eyes,' a song for the compilation CD, "Food For Thought."

http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive/200801/20080111.html

The [un]democratic party has tossed its low income (working and blue collar class base) into the gutter...left' 'em for dead.

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You and others make good points on this.  Edwards and Obama may provide a home.

Billy Bragg - chromewaves radio, Positively 4th Street Play        http://hypem.com/track/460948

How's that^ for serendipity, mainefem?

Hi Folks,

Just returned from the caucus training in Estes Park.  There were at least 75 or 80 people there representing 8 precincts.  It was standing room only, pretty evenly divided between men and women, though the greater percentage were middle aged to older folks.

It was beautifully done.  The caucus procedures were explained and then Betsy Markey running for the House of Representatives spoke, and then four others represenitng Hilary Clinton, Barack Obama, Dennis Kucinich, and John Edwards spoke.  After about five minutes, we all asked questions.

What i can say briefly is how civil, how sincere, and well represented all the candidates were.  Moreover, each said that this was the best group of candiates that has been seen in years and said they would vote the winning canidate.  There was no rancor, positions were explained, and yes, some adopted the same position as another candidate, but as one of the speakers said, there's nothing wroing with adopting a good idea.

I felt so proud and enthusiastic.  It wasn't a tear-down session, a drawing of unfavorable opinons session, rather pointing out the top priorities of each of the candidates.  It really came down to style except for HIllary, who is much more the conservative democrat, and there were good things to say about her.

What's crucial is that we get a Democartic Congress and administration because what we have now is destroying our democratic republic, is making us a pariah in the world, and the Peak Oil crisis should occur around 2010 - 2013, and if we don't do something now about Global Warming and the fuel problem, we may not be around.

I had nothing but respect for the difficult job an honest public servant does, and these were outstanding people.  All the Rush LImbaugh ugliness was absent, though it was said that's what we will see from the Republicans and if we are not careful ourselves, we will engage in it as well.  

I'll give some more specific information if anyone is interested (I'll assume that maybe a few are), but as usual, I fade at about 9 PM and it's an hour and a half later.  Just wanted you all to know how upbeat, thoughtful, well presented all the candiddates' representatives were, and to add a note of caution not to engage in the kinds of denigration that will hurt us as a whole.  That advice certainly applies to me, and I will try my best to be reasonable and open minded even though I have decided to support Barack Obama.  

Brief note to Phil, the education plan was explained in more detail, and I will look into it. 

Paine, Thankful sed to tellya that she's sorry she missed you today. Try again next week.



To the rest: Kindness is free.
(in case you didn't see it on the last thread)

12:47 am EST

As the Stephanie Miller show would say: "The rod up that man's butt must have a rod up it's butt."

Kos:

"Again, if the people making unsupported allegations want to pay for a recount, all the power to them. That's not a bad thing, that's a good thing. But ante up the cash. If they are so convinced that fraud exists, they can even justify the expense as an opportunity to have me and other skeptics in the reality based community eat some serious crow. But other than Kucinich putting a $2,000 down payment toward the cost of that recount, I haven't seen any efforts to raise that money."

I just sent Dennis some cash.

Kos also calls those who have questions about the NH results "fraudsters."

If Kos thinks that a recount would be such a "good thing," why is he name-calling those calling for it.

As Kucinich said, this is an opportunity to show the true results either way.  Nobody thinks the results for DK will be any different, but isn't this a good thing to raise awareness about for those who value Democracy?  Ever see the name of this site?

If Markos thinks that anyone who has a question about voting integrity is a nut job, has he not seen Bev Harris and Howard Dean himself hack a machine in seconds right before our very eyes (well sort of) on the Donny Deutsch show? 

Puddle, I guess I missed that she had returned.  I worked 'til 9 tonight and started my "lunch" @ 7:30 close to "the building" at a Barnes and Nobles, where is purchased Tao de Gung

Subject: Obama's church

after you read this article and the link about Obama's church, go to Google and check out all of the sites about this church.  Sobering reading.  mp

Obama mentioned his church during his appearance with Oprah.  It's the Trinity Church of Christ.  

Obama's church: Please read and go to this church's website and read what is written there. It is very alarming. Barack Obama is a member of this church and is running for President of the U.S. If you look at the first page of their website, you will learn that this congregation has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa . No where is AMERICA even mentioned.

Notice too, what color you will need to be if you should want to join Obama's church... B-L-A-C-K!!!  

Doesn't look like his choice of religion has improved much over his (former?) Muslim upbringing.

Are you aware that Obama's middle name is Mohammed? Strip away his nice looks, the big smile and smooth talk and what do you get? Certainly a racist, as plainly defined by the stated position of his church! And possibly a covert worshiper of the Muslim faith, even today. This guy desires to rule over America while his loyalty is totally vested in a Black Africa !

 I cannot believe this has not been all over the TV and newspapers. This is why it is so important to pass this message along to all of our family & friends. To think that Obama has even the slightest chance in the run for the presidency, is really scary.

Click on the link for the church Barack Obama belongs to: www.tucc.org/about.htm

I should say that the machines hacked by Howard and Bev Harris were touchscreen voting machines, not optical scan counters like those in NH. However, it is still good to bring integrity to the process and awareness to potential problems.

Saying there is no evidence of problems in NH is like saying we can't pursue impeachment because we don't have the votes.  Of course you don't have the votes. You haven't even brought forth any evidence through investigation.

Of course there is no evidence of problems in NH. That is the whole point! There can be no evidence without a recount. The "results" are owned by a private corporation and exit polls are now adjusted to match the vote totals.

Damned straight, Paine.

The[un]democatic party is attempting to define itself for the "middle class," which relegates its base (women and persons of color) into the gutter.

I'm sitting on my hands; and it appears (from a dire lack of caucus convenors in my county) that I'm not the only one.

Only 23 of 59 towns & cities are covered. Can't vote w/o convenors.

http://tinyurl.com/27yfcu

Oopsie. Turnout will be more pathetic than I thought--they'll be forced to look inward (@state, county, & municipal levels).

Pissing off the base in Maine=a minimum *loss* of 10K+ Democrats in two yrs. (mostly '04 disaffected progressives, who are not at all happy w/our Gov. and state legislative peeps).

The silence is deafening. Dems *cannot* win w/o female voters.

That's a fact (despite the idiotic 'misty' rationale we witnessed of late).

The presumption is that those core constituencies "have no place else to go."

However, sitting on one's hands also works.

Four DNC-related SPAM emails in my inbox within a few hrs. seriously pisses me off (from a local Dem. activist).

Nada.

I'm not even *registered* as a Dem.; and have no intentions of doing so, unless I perceive Billary as being close to "presumptive" status within the next week or two (by Feb. 10th).

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DANIEL ROONEY

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Dan, I know "illegals"

I don't want "illegals" here

It isn't personal, it's just wrong  agree peace out!!!!!!!!!

does not make a show of his might;

One who is good in battle does not get angry;

One who is good at defeating the enemy does not

engage him

  ~Lao Tzu

Pat, sorry i don't have a worthy question, but I liked your post very much.

From Salon:

Regional differences…the reason Obama did better in smaller districts, 750 or less, where hand-counting was used.  …Even more interesting is the third table on this page, which shows how the candidates did in places with more than 1,500 votes. Here, Clinton, not Obama, did better in hand-count areas --

a lot better, 44.17 percent to Obama's 31.61 percent. Meanwhile, in similarly large counties where machines counted the vote, Clinton's margin was smaller -- 40.28 percent to Obama's 35.96 percent. it's possible to find many counties where Obama won handily even despite Diebold (Amherst, for instance, which uses optical-scan voting and where where he got 44.68 percent; if the Diebold machines were hacked for Clinton, they didn't do much good there).

At the same time, Clinton won in many areas that manually count their votes -- she got 44.44 percent in Boscawen, 43.93 percent in Carroll, 43.52 percent in Charleston, and on and on.

In a video that you can watch here, Matthews says, "Even our own exit polls, taken as people came out of voting, showed him ahead. So what's going on here?"   But information I've been able to find about the intra-Election Day exits suggests that Matthews is letting his Clinton hatred get ahead of the facts.

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off to the place of pillows

Moyers had one of the most interesting and intriguing shows I've ever seen.  His second guest was Shelby Steele, author of "A Bound Man, Why Obama Cannot Win."  Steele's mom was white, his father black and the topic revolved a great deal around Obama.   I've written down quotes.

He referred to BO as the candidate of "redemption."  He said there are 2 kinds of blacks in the public arena; the bargainers and the challengers.  Oprah and Obama are bargainers, Al Sharpton is a challenger.  Bargainers make this unspoken deal with whites.  You don't hold me back or criticize me for being black and I will not assume you're racist.   Sharpton starts out assuming whites are racist.  Steele said and I quote, "Obama relieves the anxiety of being white." 

These are some of the adjectives he used to describe Obama....  wears "masks" is "invisible" he "accommodates" and is an "empty projection screen"  upon which whites project their hopes.  He went on to say that he walks a fine line between being one thing when he talks to blacks and another when talking to whites....that's where his masks come in.  And his talking w/o saying concrete things keeps him "invisible."  You don't know who the real Obama is..he's hidden.

I believe he also said (or maybe the woman guest before him) that Edwards is the most genuine, the most consistent candidate and is getting short shrift from the CM.  Edwards knows who he is and is comfy in his skin.

Shelby Steele sounded like he knows exactly what he's talking about since he grew up as a black person.  I think he has much better insight into the psychology of the black heart and mind than we *honky* whites do.  He didn't sound anti-BO at all; he sounded like he knew about black people ... much more than whites know.

He also discussed how blacks are leery of BO, even afraid, since he wears masks and won't expose his thoughts, feelings, identity, etc..but rather, talks in sweeping generalities and inspiring tones.

So now I wish I'd taped the show and I want to read his book.

I have to say that I agree with Steele about BO and Steele said that it was very difficult for him to become himself growing up between the white and black worlds.  That's a paraphrase.

Åt the risk of causing all sorts of reactions here, I would say that I like BO, and I think he's burning his candle at both ends and can't win the gen'l.  If he continues to pander to the whites, he'll lose the black vote and vice versa. 

I'd vote for Steele in a heartbeat.  Book is  "A Bound Man"

I predict that Obama supporters will rue the day they didn't support Edwards; that even if Obama gets the nod, he'll lose the gen'l to a horror show repug.  

It' getting nasty out there and now we have to consider not only issues but electability.  In those areas, JE wins hands down, if we can give him the money he need.

I would like to suggest to all Obama supporters to read the transcript of "NOW" with an open mind.  Who knows an educated black/white man better than another educated black/white man?

...lots of anxious whites trying to do the right thing and assuage the collective guilt. 

Pardon the typos.

Off to hunt some D&G.  :-) 

From Post above:

"Even before John Edwards was chasing ambulances in North
Carolina and Barack was voting ‘present’ in the Illinois state senate," Senator Clinton was involved in major policy initiatives, he said.

LOL!

Putz's fixation with killing expressed again, thru tears of course.

Bush: US should have acted on Auschwitz A teary-eyed President Bush stopped in front of an aerial photo of Auschwitz on Friday at Israel's Holocaust memorial and said the U.S. should have sent bombers to prevent the extermination of Jews there. Yad Vashem's chairman, Avner Shalev, quoted Bush as saying the U.S. should have "bombed it."

Putz loves these statements by heads of state since it brings out his killer instinct, which never appears to sleep.

Pakistan Warns US of Entering Border Regions to Fight al-Qaida: Report Musharraf warned that US troops would be regarded as invaders if they crossed into Pakistan's border region with Afghanistan in the hunt for al-Qaida or Taliban militants. "If they come without our permission, that's against the sovereignty of Pakistan. I challenge anybody coming into our mountains," he said in the interview in the garrison city of Rawalpindi. "They would regret that day."

Hello Joe!  Who are you? :-)

John Dean: Fixing the Broken Presidential Nomination Process Both major parties' inability to fix this fundamental problem should call into question their ability to govern. It is a very bad sign that a matter as basic as nominating presidential candidates has been turned into a contest of money-raising and organization. Such a contest surely does not translate into effective governing (as Bush and Cheney have proven).

Has he stopped talking about the 2 Americas?  I haven't heard him mention them in awhile.  Hmmmm.  I think he also could win in SC.

The Last Stand of John Edwards (Brent Budowsky) If Edwards slightly retools his message back towards his “two Americas” of 2004, he has a chance to win the upcoming debate so decisively that he will be able to take his case to an Alamo-like stand in Texas and Ohio. He should talk about two Americas among voters, but also the greater America that is possible with Edwards as president and a Democratic House and Senate.

..from above article

"Edwards should escalate his noble support for homeless veterans and make a direct appeal to military families as well as Middle America, because on issues like healthcare, they are all part of the one America we seek, and all shortchanged, in the same way, for the same reasons, by the same forces, in the two Americas we have.

Edwards can win the upcoming debates, and win them big, but to do so, must reconnect with the broader Middle America — which he has not done in 2008. In 2004 he argued populism with optimism; in 2008 he argues populism with anger. He was right the first time, and just as John McCain adjusted back towards his message of 2000, Edwards should adjust back towards his message of 2004.

The big truth that we are not hearing from the insider political classes is this: With far fewer candidates in the coming debates, Edwards has a far greater chance to get his message out, win those debates and revive what would be a long-shot candidacy based on high principles and high hopes.

Edwards needs to give his own vision, his own “I Have A Dream” message that not only dramatizes the injustice and wrongs, but uplifts voters with a portrait of the good that is possible with a Democratic president named John Edwards and a Democratic Congress to pass his program and lift America, while he changes America."

Goodnite, good bloggy folk.

One last thing.

"Even before John Edwards was chasing ambulances in North
Carolina

 WOOF WOOF  :-)

can you say          genocide?

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No. Not at all. Some call it war.

Same difference to the non-psychopath segment of humanity. 

Dan, I know "illegals"

I don't want "illegals" here

It isn't personal, it's just wrong

So make 'em legal. Lou Dobbs sure as hell ain't gonna get rid of 'em.

"Even before John Edwards was chasing ambulances in North
Carolina and Barack was voting ‘present’ in the Illinois state senate," Senator Clinton was involved in major policy initiatives, he said.

What a pro --  taking the low road and the high one in the same sentence. Typical Hillary mouthpiece.

People can gripe about Obama sounding too noble (just like Edwards and Hillary actually), but this is what he's up against.

And since we're demanding specifics these days -- after almost of year of debating their proposals -- just what are these major initiatives Hillary crows about? NAFTA of 1993? Her health insurance fiasco that brought down the entire party in 1994? Kicking kids off of public assistance in 1995 (disingenuously called "welfare reform")? The telecom sellout of 1998? Voting for Bush's bankrupcy revision against ordinary people in 2004? NCLB? Iraq? Patriot Crap?

If that's not what she's talking about being "involved in," she and her pawns should be specific about what.