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Why Care About Dave

Written by: Susan N on May 31, 2008 2:59 PM EDT

Linked to groups: dfaROCHESTER, Central New York DFA, Dave Garretson for NY Assembly

Dave Garretson  is running for the Assembly seat in the 134th district representing the towns of Greece , Ogden , and Sweden (not far from the city of Rochester , NY). SUNY Brockport is included in the district. I care about Dave Garretson taking this Assembly seat and representing the public.I can't vote for him. I don't live in the district. Why would I bother even noticing a race that's not visible through my living room window?

    The reason that I care that Dave wins this race is because I know that the 2008 election year is promising to be a historical year for political change. Sure the Presidential race is in the news. I've stopped counting the times that I hear the names Clinton and Obama on Public Radio. That's not the whole story of course. The bills that are passed at a state level ripple out like pebble tossed into a pond and do effect us all. I'll repeat myself; what might look like a small inconsequential whisper among a few insiders in Albany, will reverberate like a shot outside your driveway. What if all of the people drafting and voting for bills were as unfeeling and unthinking as the current guy warming the seat for the 134th Assembly district? When I carefully read the incumbent's voting record , I disagreed with him time and time again on important issues such as gun control. A shot outside my driveway? Why yes. Some Assembly members don't believe a child might play with a gun. It wouldn't do for a manufacturer to take actions to make it harder for our children to pull the trigger... I want to get rid of people who serve the interest of the "old boys" at the expense of the people like us and all of our friends and families.

   Dave Garretson is smart. He is thoughtful and cares about how his actions affect others. Most of all Dave Garretson is an exceptional listener and communicator . Dave is a leader and a problem solver. Please look at Dave's website http://daveforassembly.org/ . Feel free to contact Dave and see if you feel the same way that I do about changing "business as usual" around the country state by state and district by district. Tell Dave that you care, too.

Thank You For Caring ,

Susan

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- Thank you, Susan.

By Cheryl on Jun 1, 2008 1:09 PM EDT

I am not sure why no one commented on your post, but thank you for writing promoting a candidate. It is always good to hear about candidates in various states and districts. Good luck to him!

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- Dean is still first

By Monica Smith on Jun 2, 2008 6:00 AM EDT

Things take a while to get noticed, Cheryl.  Since you haven't been here constantly, the posts in the side-bar are probably a novelty that attract your attention more than they do the regulars who are just happy to get a tool bar on the first try.  LOL

I will recommend and see what happens.

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By Karen on Jun 5, 2008 12:15 AM EDT

Hitching a ride

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- Hi, Monica

By Cheryl on Jun 5, 2008 1:13 AM EDT

I see your posts occassionally over at DailyKos. Well, I notice the side ones because it is layed out like DailyKos and that is usually were I go to find good reading and recommend. Granted, it is much faster and easier there but I like to recommend and comment when I see good stuff.

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- Only made the point about the sidebar

By Monica Smith on Jun 5, 2008 5:36 AM EDT

for those who don't have tool bars and find it difficult to make links.

wonder what this does?  I just tried "grabbing" and pasting this here.  Is it a link or isn't it?

SFD Post-Election Potluck Party!!

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- OK, so that works.

By Monica Smith on Jun 5, 2008 5:46 AM EDT

you can drag and drop the posts on the sidebar into a comment box and it shows up as a link--much easier than using the tool and drop-down

Should perhaps note that while some people really like instructions and read every word, other people just have to learn by doing and no matter how many instructions are provided or how specific they are, they don't do any good.  that's probably why open source soft-ware people don't bother with manuals and just count on google to let people find what they're looking for.

When I first started using linux, it was very disconcerting that the install files came along with the program I wasn't able to install.  Then I learned that all the install and help files are available on the net and can be accessed by any browser on any computer.

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By puddle on Jun 5, 2008 12:16 AM EDT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Make a Contribution

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- YYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!

By Karen on Jun 5, 2008 12:17 AM EDT
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By puddle on Jun 5, 2008 12:20 AM EDT

Well, got a tool bar, and lost it, lol!

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- CAN YOU TELL I'M HAPPY!!!! :o)

By Karen on Jun 5, 2008 12:18 AM EDT
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By puddle on Jun 5, 2008 12:21 AM EDT

How?

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By mary vb on Jun 5, 2008 12:23 AM EDT

Hey that hockey player looks like he has all his teeth! ;-0 

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- Thank you Puddle!

By Mz*Little on Jun 5, 2008 12:25 AM EDT
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- For what? lol!

By puddle on Jun 5, 2008 1:00 AM EDT
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- For

By Mz*Little on Jun 5, 2008 1:06 AM EDT

The link to the new thread, of course!

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- Great personal story about Howard Dean in Rochester

By floridagal . on Jun 5, 2008 12:46 AM EDT

by the volunteer who was driving him to his various appearances.  It is such a nice write-up.  I posted it the other day but I never saw it appear. 

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2148

 

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- Oh

By Mz*Little on Jun 5, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

It was there.  I corresponded with the original author as she is a Crushie and asked her to put it here, but she didn't know how.  I was ever so glad to see it as it is a marvelous story.  Our Howie is such a gracious person.

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- It made the front page floridagal. Susan captured the essence of Howard with this post.

By Phil Specht on Jun 5, 2008 1:05 AM EDT

I recommended this post because what it says is so true.

I contributed to the Mississippi Insurance Commissoners primary race because I saw the Gulf Coast after Katrina and the way Insurance Companies jerked people around. and that race was a "pebble race"

the local races are where an effort can tip the scales

you have to add them all up to change the nation

Obama has figured out what Howard was saying writ large.

"He" can't win it, but "we" can. change starts at the bottom and works up

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- When a candidate is the peoples candidate the opponent has to run against the people.

By Phil Specht on Jun 5, 2008 1:15 AM EDT

It is like anti-Rove, forcing the opponent to oppose the voter pool.

of course Nixon won by dividing the nation and so did Bush, but McCain will be backward looking if he tries

I'm liking our chances.

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- That is a very good point

By Cheryl on Jun 5, 2008 1:56 AM EDT

Makes it harder to attack the candidate because it means they attack the people. Dean understood that. "Dean for America" "You have the Power", "It's about you" etc.

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- Karen Mike was right again with his predictions.

By Phil Specht on Jun 5, 2008 1:25 AM EDT

wOOt!

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- Sandy, saw your comment at baby. . . . So it didn't get lost

By puddle on Jun 5, 2008 1:37 AM EDT
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- I have to comment on this gun thing

By Cheryl on Jun 5, 2008 1:53 AM EDT

Arizona really wants to be the wild west. Keep in mind we can carry concealed weapons and access to guns licensed or not is as easy as access to drugs here. There is a certain irony that I can get a gun or any number of illegal drugs easier than I can get medicine for my serious health issues. I guess if I was stoned all the time I wouldn't be in so much pain, lol.

I am a gun-rights supporter for a lot of reasons, mainly the constitution and what the Bush administration has done that creates a militant state. I believe people need to have the right to have arms to defend against their own gov. if necessary, which was the intent of the forefathers (against Britain) imho opinion although I know this is hotly debated but history the rights of the people superseded gov. rights (military) as the gov. was to work for the people and not the other way around. We don't think much about it until we see how quickly and realistically the country can descended into fascism as witnessed by the lat 8 years and the control of the three branches by the corporate powers without the checks and balances. However, like all things, there are limits.

Anyway, I do think there is a lot taken to extremes. For example, we have state legislators who have nothing better to do than try to get legislation passed letting you bring arms into the courtroom and other government buildings like libraries, and worse in bars and strip clubs. Just what we need another drunk Cheney shooting someone. They passed a bill recently that basically said if you feel threatened you can shoot someone. So, if you look at me the wrong way, bang, your gone. The Governor vetoed it.

Unfortunately, when you reach across the isle on some issues you work with people who you are polar opposite in others. One of the ones who keeps pushing these terrible gun laws here is a state senator who also happens to be the best person in the state on election integrity issues and keeps writing and pushing for really good bills. So, we work with her on that and try not to roll our eyes as the next horrible gun bill comes down the pipe that we have to oppose.

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- end of clinton era and dawn of new admin

By pinsocal * on Jun 5, 2008 2:18 AM EDT

there's something pathetic about an athlete or a politician pushing beyond his/her prime or time.  barack won the game by racking up points in the allotted time, but hillary insisted she won based on rebounds. 

the ideological feminist supporters--if not now, when?  if not hillary, who?--will vote for john mccain--if not now, never!  they make up a fringe, not anywhere near the 17-18 million supporters, so while vocal, the i-feminists constitute no clout.  why are people even talking about them as bargaining chips?

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ok, some suggestions for barack's administration........

*kobe bryant:  a veep to answer the 3 am call by the sleepless press for a pick-up game of basketball

*gen eric shinseki:  a secretary of defense who shares barack's unshakeable integrity, courage under fire, profound love of country, and the birthplace of hawaii.  if there's a pair of critical minds which will plan an iraq exit strategy, it's these two.

*john edwards:  the obvious, attorney general, to fight for those without a voice

*howard dean:  if he wants it, health and human services secretary, to re-design the infrastructure and reach out to the international community

*robert kennedy, jr:  head of environmental protection agency to guard the science against the politics

*tweety:  on stage daily as white house press secretary--with history lessons thrown in

*k.o.:  chair of the federal communications commission and minder of faux news and bill 'the mouth' orally

*warren buffet:  chair of the securities and exchange commission to demonstrate that corporations can be profitable while upholding ethical standards

*bill moyers:  the obamas' interim pastor

*joe lieberman and larry craig:  co-captains of the white house potty patrol and official dog bathers

 

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- OMG

By Annilow on Jun 5, 2008 2:23 AM EDT

Revealed: Secret plan to keep Iraq under US control

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By Patrick Cockburn


Thursday, 5 June 2000

A secret deal being negotiated in Baghdad would perpetuate the American military occupation of Iraq indefinitely, regardless of the outcome of the US presidential election in November.

The terms of the impending deal, details of which have been leaked to The Independent, are likely to have an explosive political effect in Iraq. Iraqi officials fear that the accord, under which US troops would occupy permanent bases, conduct military operations, arrest Iraqis and enjoy immunity from Iraqi law, will destabilise Iraq's position in the Middle East and lay the basis for unending conflict in their country.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/revealed-secret-plan-to-keep-iraq-under-us-control-840512.html

 

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By Annilow on Jun 5, 2008 2:24 AM EDT

proximic_content, etc provided free of charge by the bloggie

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- Can't resist.

By Monica Smith on Jun 5, 2008 4:40 AM EDT

How long have I been telling you that?  It's about the bases.  Has been from the beginning.  Ask Bill.

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- that was my thought as I read it...

By Jo*in*Vermont on Jun 5, 2008 7:48 AM EDT

just how long has Monica been telling us this, with links provided and just how much crap has been flung at her for doing so( although I must say the crap-flinging dropped off as the information started sinking in....)

sea mentioned that Obama has to do something about Iran right now - I can only say that if he can do/does do anything about it, it will be entirely under the radar, so please don't hold your breath right now waiting to hear about it.  a lot of faith is involved in this business.  I have faith that Obama already has strong support among the military leaders who believe his strategy will be a great improvement upon the current mess that Bush&Co call strategy.  I know that powers within Congress are on top of this situation right now.  my dream is that Bush will try to push this and that will be the moment... the moment when they can click the bracelets around his wrists and frogmarch him from whereever he be at that moment.

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By Annilow on Jun 5, 2008 8:36 AM EDT

Jo I have tons of faith in Obama and will vote for him, but I was disconcerted by his promise to those nice folks at AIPAC to keep all of Jerusalem for the Israelis -- I can see where that might not  be the solution.

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- Monica-you're absolutely right (as usual)

By Annilow on Jun 5, 2008 8:34 AM EDT
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- Correct

By Mz*Little on Jun 5, 2008 12:43 PM EDT

as usual!  that's why the powers over there aren't too keen on getting the agreement signed.  They want to wait until the new administration is in place.

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- Good morning, everybody

By Monica Smith on Jun 5, 2008 4:46 AM EDT

This new format makes it possible to be at the beginning, middle and end without actually being here.  Thank goodness for the time stamp.  LOL

I actually shut the laptop on that story about the bases last night.  Since there's no surprise there, I figured it could wait until morning.  Somebody in the KOS comments mentioned a hearing in the Foreign Relations committee which it seems worth checking out.  So, that's what I'll be up to as soon as I check the middle thread to see what people were up to while I lay sleeping.

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- Virginia

By * rdorgan on Jun 5, 2008 5:39 AM EDT

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/05/obama.thursday/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Fade to blue: Obama starts campaign in solid red Virginia

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama will kick off his general election campaign on Thursday with a pair of stops in Virginia, signaling that the Illinois senator thinks he can turn the once solidly-red state into a Democratic pick-up come November.

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The beginning of Obama's day, however, might be just as crucial. He will attempt to make up ground in the one region of the state -- the heart of rural southwest Virginia -- that he lost handily during his resounding primary win on February 12.

Obama won the Virginia primary by a 64-35 margin, but he lost overwhelmingly to Hillary Clinton in the state's rural Ninth Congressional District by 33 points, one of the first signs of a pattern of vulnerability among white working-class voters that continued to nag him throughout later primary states such as Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia.

David "Mudcat" Saunders, the Roanoke-based political strategist who has advised prominent politicians on how to reach out to rural voters, said southwest Virginia is "a logical place for him to start" because Obama will need to appeal to those voters not just in Virginia, but in other crucial battleground states.

"If Virginia truly is in play, it's a practical move for him because he can get the western Pennsylvania bunch, the southeast Ohio bunch," Saunders said. "It's the same region. It's the same bunch of people, they just live in different states."

"These are the people around the country who decide the president of the United States, and they are neglected," he added. "The Republicans take them for granted, and the Democrats don't try to come get 'em. God bless Barack Obama for for trying to go get 'em."

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- I am in Virginia..

By linda b on Jun 5, 2008 7:57 AM EDT

Just got an email from the Obama campaign - I am on their radar!! That if I got to the Nissan Pavilion by 3pm I would get a VIP pass to the event. But I am about 3 hours away and the traffic is brutal.

 

So at least Obama knows who we are - delegates for Obama!!!!!!!!!

And Jim Webb will be there too and Mark Warner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By Monica Smith on Jun 5, 2008 5:49 AM EDT

Well, I guess you can't drop and drag from top to bottom.  Or, at least I can't on the laptop.

http://www.democracyforamerica.com/blog_posts/25497-citizen-transparency-wins

Go and recommend the post.

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- make it viral--this issue has to be pushed like the DNC Chair

By Monica Smith on Jun 5, 2008 6:00 AM EDT
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- Never mind--the topic needs to go viral

By Monica Smith on Jun 5, 2008 6:07 AM EDT

this particular clip is useless.

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By Huron John on Jun 5, 2008 6:55 AM EDT
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- Sayonara Clintons

By Huron John on Jun 5, 2008 7:07 AM EDT

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/smith/275

Is it just possible that both Clintons had the arrogance to think that with Obama running as their opposition, they would take everything including all of the big bucks and banners? They misjudged the American people, and I misjudged many of those who still will support this power hungry couple regardless of Hillary's votes to appease the Bush GOP, regardless of her support for an ignorant and angry McCain, who again stands for everything opposite the Democratic Party and American true values, regardless of her own bad judgment in what she said. Once, such a misstep, maybe, but how many times did she step on another Democrat, and has the audacity to think she deserves VP? Even as late as yesterday, she's talking up McCain, when we have Bozo the clown already in the Oval Office, we don't need his ignorant and angry twin to follow. . .

 

Clinton supporters are so self-centered they don't care about the people that Hillary voted to destroy, including the innocent who are trying to get another job or education through our military and our National Guard, and they were all used by these power mongers. Bush went after Saddam clearly for the revenge. Everything he did in Iraq shows that, from the uncivil, and arrogant "shock and awe," to the multibillion dollar embassy, while the Iraqi people still don't have much more than two hours of electricity a day, medical care, or food, even after all of these years. And, it's been reported that as many as two to three million have left everything and fled Iraq. This says a whole hellava lot about those supporters of Clinton, who say they will vote for McCain.

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- To be honest ...

By * rdorgan on Jun 5, 2008 7:21 AM EDT

... one day I'll feel sorry for Hillary and how she didn't win the dem nomination.

But right now, what she commandeered as a dem primary/caucus campaign, IMO was like a bumper car that was on overdrive, bumping into so many others, including especially the bumper cars full of Obama supporters.

It's still too early yet, too raw for my wife and I to have empathy for Hillary, Bill and Chelsea's situation right now.

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- I mostly feel pity for them (now that my shock from their venom is wearing off)

By Jo*in*Vermont on Jun 5, 2008 7:28 AM EDT

many have bought into Hillary's lies and slams against Obama - lock, stock and barrel.  you can see this from their viral posts on her website - many of them truly believe what she and her cohorts have spun.

and there seem to be a good number of them who are just vengeful and say they'll vote McCain.   we have almost 5 months to help Obama make them understand what a tragic mistake that would be - hopefully their anger and disappointment will subside and cooler heads will prevail. 

and I still think a number of her most vocal 'supporters' are republicans just riling things up - and probably being paid well to do so!  so many of the angriest, nastiest comments are on blogs, where anonymity is their friend.

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By Huron John on Jun 5, 2008 7:54 AM EDT

and don't tell me she deserves respect--she doesn't.

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- kudos to the DCW ...

By * rdorgan on Jun 5, 2008 7:24 AM EDT

... a job well done:

 

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/

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DemConWatch Congratulates Barack Obama

Barack Obama is the Democratic Presidential Nominee for the 2008 General Election, so DemConWatch has decided that we will no longer be updating our superdelegate lists or tables.

We would like to thank everyone who has helped us out with our Superdelegate Lists and Delegate Trackers. Special thanks go to Yousri, Quon_mom, Amot, Charlie and Ed Espinoza. Thanks also to all of our readers and commenters, who have provided us with much of the information you see on these pages. When we started the lists in early January we had no idea that we would get so much attention or that we would be updating the list into June.

We also never expected to get the media coverage we received. We had stories written about us in the NY Times, Wired, Politico, The Wall Street Journal and US News and World Report to name a few. If you were lucky you may have also heard us do interviews on CNN Radio, NPR and XM Radio's POTUS `08.

We will now return you to our regularly scheduled program and bring you everything you want and need to know about the 2008 Democratic National Convention.

We'll be reporting on the speakers and the media, the protests and the parties.

We will be live blogging from inside and outside the Pepsi Center for the entire week. You'll get reports on the events and people that make up the convention and will meet some of the friends we've met along the way.

We'll also be turning our attention to the fall election, providing all the numbers, charts and information as only DemConWatch can.

Thanks again!

Wednesday, June 04, 2008

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By * rdorgan on Jun 5, 2008 7:36 AM EDT

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/05/superdelegate-comments-4.html

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June 05, 2008 5:09 AM

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Matt said "We are freezing this page for posterity as of June 4, 2008."

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That reminds me of the song by Jim Croce -- Time in a Bottle.

Great work by Matt, Oreo and all the supporting cast of contributing bloggers here !

DCW could just as aptly be phrased -- Democratic Conveyors of the Well-grounded.

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- my thanks to them, also - they did a great job

By Jo*in*Vermont on Jun 5, 2008 7:39 AM EDT

it's so exciting to know that, in politics, we simply aren't in Kansas anymore, Dorothy!  sites like dcw are invaluable in our politics today - extremely thankful for the internet, I am! 

and I'm extremely thankful to you for your thoughtful posts and links to Obama's daily grind, rdorgan!  without thoughtful folks like you, many of us would miss out on some very important info - stuff we really need to see but simply don't have the time to go looking for!

Attn: Phil - I'm nominating * rdorgan for a Howardly for his loyalty to progressive values and his comprehensive coverage of this amazing political primary.

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By Phil Specht on Jun 5, 2008 8:03 AM EDT

a HOWARDLY to rdorgan for his steadfast sticktoitiveness that outdid the tenacity of Hillary is indeed in order

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By * rdorgan on Jun 5, 2008 8:12 AM EDT

thanks jo and phil

(now if only the Celtics could get a sports version of a Howardly, they might have a chance at beating the Lakers in the NBA Finals --- tonight's 1st game starts in Beantown, 9PM ET)

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- you're welcome - it's well-deserved!

By Jo*in*Vermont on Jun 5, 2008 8:43 AM EDT

and thank you Phil - the Howardly has become such a wonderful part of this community!   

I believe that you're a big part of the glue that keeps us together.   ;)

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- Don't forget you can see it on Hannah

By Monica Smith on Jun 5, 2008 10:05 AM EDT

Ah, it works

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- Even in defeat, it's all about her

By Huron John on Jun 5, 2008 8:04 AM EDT

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/even-in-defeat-its-all-ab_b_105251.html

"What does Hillary want? What does she want?" Senator Clinton asked last night. What does she want? Seriously? This misguided and self-centered attitude is what ultimately doomed her campaign.

It should never have been about what she wants -- or, now, what she's demanding as ransom in exchange for releasing her supporters. Senator Clinton is effectively holding up the works and delaying the big show even though she has spent too many weeks inexplicably bolstering Senator McCain's chances over Senator Obama in November -- even though every second she's remained in this race, despite the mathematical reality, she has forced Senator Obama to keep his army divided, when it ought to have been raging forward in a unified, fist-pumping head-first frontal assault against the nefarious Bush Republican political machine.

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By Phil Specht on Jun 5, 2008 8:09 AM EDT

The reason for her defeat was because she made it about her.

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- Attack Iran? Kaboom!

By Huron John on Jun 5, 2008 8:10 AM EDT

Wake up sheeple!

http://www.alternet.org/audits/87079/

The May 8 letter from U.S. Rep. John Conyers Jr., D-Mich., chair of the House Judiciary Committee, to George W. Bush received virtually no media coverage, in spite of the fact that it warned the president that an attack on Iran without Congressional approval would be grounds for impeachment. Rumor has it several senators have been briefed about the possibility of war with Iran.

Something is afoot.

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By Phil Specht on Jun 5, 2008 8:10 AM EDT

 it ought to have been raging forward in a unified, fist-pumping head-first frontal assault against the nefarious Bush Republican political machine

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- Money, money, money ...

By * rdorgan on Jun 5, 2008 8:18 AM EDT

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080605/pl_politico/10868_1

GOP fears Obama's money machine

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With Hillary Clinton’s campaign coming to an end this weekend, Barack Obama’s rise as the Democratic nominee brings serious bad news to a new group — John McCain’s finance team.

A review of campaign finance data offers not one ounce of good news and barely any hope for the McCain campaign’s ability to compete with Obama’s fundraising prowess.

To make matters worse, Obama’s campaign, which raised $272 million through April for the primary, now is reaching out to Clinton’s fundraisers, who raised another $200 million through April, in an effort to unite forces and bury the historically deep-pocketed Republicans.

Take a look at some of the numbers:

• If each of Obama’s donors gave him a modest $250, he’d have $375 million to spend during the two-month general election sprint. That’s $186 million a month; $47 million a week.

• During the same September to Nov. 4th period, McCain will have about $85 million to spend since he has decided to take taxpayer money to help finance his campaign activities.

• The Republican National Committee, which is charged with closing the gap between McCain and Obama, has $40 million in cash. Obama raised almost as much — $31 million – from just his small donors in the month of February. His total for the month, $57 million, exceeded the RNC’s cash balance.

• Obama has more than 1.5 million donors; McCain has a few hundred thousand.

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Such a massive financial advantage will allow Obama to compete in more states than McCain and force his rival to defend states that should rightfully be Republican wins.

Obama’s use of such tactics has already been on display in the primary.

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- What they really fear is us.

By Monica Smith on Jun 5, 2008 10:02 AM EDT

BTW, I've been trying to access the C-span coverage of yesterday's interview of the Iraq parliament members.

They had a rerun of the ending on this morning, but the whole thing won't play on either the linux box or the MAC.

This is the URL

rtsp://video1.c-span.org/project/iraq/iraq06048_parliament.rm

perhaps you'll have more luck on IE.

Ron Paul got them to admit that 70 percent of the population want the US gone.

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- message to seashell

By Phil Specht on Jun 5, 2008 8:19 AM EDT

Barack Obama can forestall an attack on Iran by expressing a willingness to entertain the possibility; such that there is no rush to "use it or lose it" by the War Party.

 

 

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By Huron John on Jun 5, 2008 12:31 PM EDT

Except that there's no justification for even "entertaining the possibility"

 

Iran threatens no one

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- Judy for Dean

By Phil Specht on Jun 5, 2008 8:24 AM EDT

If you happen to plan on passing through Iowa let me know, as my family is planning to go to the Art Show in Iowa City on Sat. and we can do lunch (blogger get togethers are always fun)

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- guest ? how about host guest ?

By * rdorgan on Jun 5, 2008 8:38 AM EDT

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080605/obama_view_080605/20080605?hub=Entertainment&s_name=

 

Michelle Obama to be a guest host on 'The View'

Updated Thu. Jun. 5 2008 8:03 AM ET

The Associated Press

<!-- dateline -->NEW YORK<!-- /dateline --> -- Michelle Obama will be a guest host on "The View" on June 18.

The popular daytime talk show had invited her to be a guest this month, but she sent back word that she would like to be a host like Cindy McCain did in April, said Bill Geddie, the show's executive producer.

"Equal time - that's hard to argue with," he said Wednesday.

Being a guest host will allow Michelle Obama to help interview guests and participate in the opening "hot topics," or banter about what's in the news that day. It offers the chance for someone to show a more complete personality than just sitting for an interview and talking about themselves, Geddie said.

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- Means to an end.

By Tom Bearse on Jun 5, 2008 8:42 AM EDT
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By * rdorgan on Jun 5, 2008 8:45 AM EDT

Tom -

Btw, does Mike know that the Penguins have set back his prediction accuracy ? 

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- rd wrote:

By Tom Bearse on Jun 5, 2008 8:50 AM EDT

"[D]oes Mike know that the Penguins have set back his prediction accuracy ?"

He pulled that bacon out of the fire when he predicted a Wings victory over Pittsburgh yesterday.  I'll credit him for seeing the error of his ways.  The Wings were particularly good at showing people that this year.

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- Pittsburgh was the better team.......

By Michael Ellis on Jun 5, 2008 9:03 AM EDT

Im not sure that it was so much what the Red Wings did, but what Pittsburgh didnt do.........for the record, Ive been watching NHL hockey since 1969 and every Stanley Cup Final except one(1992 I was in the UK, should have stayed).......

Anyways.........again, the Penguins played some of THE most terrible SCF hockey ever in every game except maybe games 3 and 5...........errant passes, litle or no hitting.........no imagination from Crosby(now i can say Ovechkin is FAR better)..........so all Detroit had to do was to show up...............

One of THE most crappiest Finals ive ever seen..............

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- Everyone's entitled to their worthless opinion.

By Tom Bearse on Jun 5, 2008 9:13 AM EDT

"One of THE most crappiest Finals ive ever seen.............."

This analysis ranks in wisdom with your previous predictions:  With a 50% chance of choosing the winner correctly each series, you picked against the Wings in four straight. 

If it was one of the crappiest finals you've ever seen, then it goes without saying that this was a series that anyone with real hockey sense would recognize as an epic series for the ages.

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- Hell Tom

By Michael Ellis on Jun 5, 2008 9:41 AM EDT

I would almost bet Detroit threw the two games they lost as per pressure from Bettman and the NHL..........wouldnt surprise me..........

Odd though, for the hockey town team..........since 2000 you have been to the SAME number of Finals as the Carolina Hurricanes..............lol

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- Mike wrote:

By Tom Bearse on Jun 5, 2008 9:52 AM EDT

"Odd though, for the hockey town team..........since 2000 you have been to the SAME number of Finals as the Carolina Hurricanes..............lol"

Great statistic.  Lets expand it a little to observe that since 1995, the Wings have been to three more finals than Carolina and won three more Stanley Cups.

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- Yes but..........

By Michael Ellis on Jun 5, 2008 10:18 AM EDT

Buying your Stanley Cups..............especially 2002..............6 or was it 7 Hall of Famers...........

Oh well.........money talks and BS walks right?

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- Mike wrote:

By Tom Bearse on Jun 5, 2008 10:23 AM EDT

"Buying your Stanley Cups"

You mean now that we don't buy them when we win them?  It's an intiguing theory that always prompts the question: "Did the other teams who spent as much as, or outspent, Detroit also consequently buy all those non-championships?  No one who claims Detroit bought their Stanley Cups ever answers.

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- I come to bury the Penguins, not to praise them.

By Tom Bearse on Jun 5, 2008 8:45 AM EDT

From LCS Hockey, an excerpt from Mike Dell's brilliant examination of Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Finals.  He lost a bet.

"The Detroit Red Wings are the best hockey team in the world. Chris Osgood is a great goaltender. I am an idiot for ever doubting them. They're great, and I'm stupid. Congratulations to the Red Wings. They earned it. They're the tops. They teach me new things every day. If I live to be a thousand, I'll never be as cool or as wicked awesome as those great and glorious Red Wings. All hail Detroit. Let's go Wings. Yeehaw. Let's go Wings."

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- setting things right ...

By * rdorgan on Jun 5, 2008 8:49 AM EDT

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb

It's about time

Dave Winfield came up with the idea for major league teams to draft former Negro League players.
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Former Negro Leaguers are thrilled MLB teams will honor them before Thursday's draft in a tribute conceived by Dave Winfield.  

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- 40 years ago today..............

By Michael Ellis on Jun 5, 2008 9:18 AM EDT
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- How Obama did it by Karen Tumulty - Time Magazine

By mary vb on Jun 5, 2008 9:27 AM EDT

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1811857,00.html

 

A great read.  Grassroots, grassroots, grassroots with bit by Joe Trippi starting it all with Howard Dean and Obama refining it.

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- Mr Tool Bar Please

By sandy m on Jun 5, 2008 9:30 AM EDT
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- Bobby Kennedy

By sandy m on Jun 5, 2008 9:49 AM EDT
Kennedy exits a polling booth after voting fin the 1960 presidential election.
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By sandy m on Jun 5, 2008 9:53 AM EDT

There is a nice article on What If Bobby Kennedy Had Become President on Newsweek

http://www.newsweek.com/id/139161?GT1=43002

 

 

 

 

 

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- Three words characterizing Tuesday night's speeches

By Pat in Colorado on Jun 5, 2008 9:47 AM EDT

Morning Folks,

A deluge here. I never turn down rain in Colorado, but in the northwestern part of Colorado, possibility of flooding because of melting and heavy runoff from the mountains.

Last night's Meetup for Democracy (five years later and we're still meeting), the chair suggested that Tuesday night's speeches by McCain, Clinton, and Obama could each be described in one word. McCain-Huh? Clinton-Me! Obama-We!

Am happy to concur with your recommendation, Jo, for a Howardly to rdorgan. Yes, I'm appreciative of your conviction and diligence informing us of the Obama campaign. This is a historic time, and I believe with all my heart he is the leader we need now and we are the citizens we need now. A change in consciousness, participation, ethics and values will help us survive our own mistakes and maybe help us heal ourselves and the planet.

Thanks friends for all the information, opinions, analysis, and dialogue. It is a community here like no other I know. And now on to working for Obama to win by a landslide.

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- Jon Stewart ...

By * rdorgan on Jun 5, 2008 10:11 AM EDT
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- your post made me think of jc

By Jo*in*Vermont on Jun 5, 2008 12:32 PM EDT

I think about her a lot - I really, really miss her.  so it caused me to stop to talk to her for a minute and tell her that I really hope she can see what's going on down here because she would really love every bit of it and I would simply love to hear what she thinks about it all.  and I started to cry a bit and then it hit me - maybe she's the one that's 'doing' all this - I certainly wouldn't put it past her to organize something in the next realm and create some magic down here on earth!  and of course that just shook me with laughter - whenever I think of jc, I start with a tear in my eye but I always go on to other thoughts with a smile on my face!  thank you jc for all your love, laughter and wisdom - you will be with me and with many of us forever.

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- New thread

By Monica Smith on Jun 5, 2008 9:53 AM EDT
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- Thanks, Sandy for the article.

By Pat in Colorado on Jun 5, 2008 11:59 AM EDT

I copied the quote from Aeschylus. It is also pertinent to our time now.

"My favorite poet was Aeschylus. And he once wrote, "Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God."

The weeping, silent listeners had probably never heard of Aeschylus, but they understood what he meant. Kennedy finished:

Let us dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world."

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- note to floridagal:

By jane d on Jun 5, 2008 12:40 PM EDT

That was my post "Driving Howard Dean".
If you search the archives for that title, it'll link you. It was posted on May 27.
I'm still grinning!
Jane

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