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Red State, Blue State, No State, New State?
There is nothing more frustrating than being a blue stater in a red state, or, I would guess, vice versa. Or a blue county person in a red state, where no matter how hard you work, successfully, locally it has no affect on statewide politics. It is the underlying cause of lack of voter turnout and political participation, the idea that "no matter what I do, it means nothing." The blatant gerrymandering by both parties, from the GOP in Texas to the Democrats in Pennsylvania, in order to produce safe seats, just adds to that citizen frustration and non-participation.So let me throw out for discussion an idea, at least for the state level frustrations. Is it time to redraw the states? After all, they are arbitrary, based on everything from 17th Century land grants to the results of various minor wars. They vary in population by a factor of 70 and physical size by a similar factor. They are much larger in population than any "founding father" could have imagined in 1789 when the Constitution was approved. They are often dysfunctional: Northern Virginia nothing like the the rural southwest, upstate New York very different from New York City (which is very different from the Long Island suburbs).
There is nothing magical about the number 50 or the borders of most states. The only thing that worries me about this idea is that the people who would implement it are the same gerrymandering partisans who have screwed up the system, but it's something worth thinking about.
So might be eliminating states altogether. As I said, they've become much larger than anything imagined at the founding of the country. It's an interesting question whether the degree of "middle management" they provide is worth the costs, but the Constitutional challenge that would pose is probably too great, even if we concluded it was a good idea.
More States? No States?
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the original poster to edit. So, for example, Rich could change "word" to "work" :)
the original poster to edit. So, for example, Rich could change "word" to "work" :)
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Since Americans move, on average, every two years, I don't think the state boundaries are all that significant. But it is significant to know that you are somewhere else and that things might just be a little different from here to there.
When you come right down to it, most services are provided on the local level. I think that for there to be continuity, it helps to have contiguous boundaries. The absence of incorporation in some areas leads to quite a bit of mischief in the south, for example. Makes it hard to know who's responsible for what. If there's anything that we could do without it's counties.
Since Americans move, on average, every two years, I don't think the state boundaries are all that significant. But it is significant to know that you are somewhere else and that things might just be a little different from here to there.
When you come right down to it, most services are provided on the local level. I think that for there to be continuity, it helps to have contiguous boundaries. The absence of incorporation in some areas leads to quite a bit of mischief in the south, for example. Makes it hard to know who's responsible for what. If there's anything that we could do without it's counties.
by * rdorgan on Wednesday, 07/19/06 @ 08:26 AM
I'm sure I'm being really stupid about this, but I simply can't understand how raising the cost of using money (borrowing) is supposed to lower prices. If it costs me more to finance a new lathe in my shop, I'm going to pass that on to what I charge my customers. I wouldn't expect the price of the lathe to go down, either.
One could argue that since the value of money isn't reduced by its use, there should be no charge (I think that's the Islamic argument against interest over and above transaction costs).
Anyway, we would seem to have plenty of evidence that low interest rates are what kept the economy humming--to the extent it did. Playing with the interest rates now is largely an effort to "regulate the economy"--a rather dubious principle in a society that swears by the self-regulating market.
So many inconsistencies-----
I'm sure I'm being really stupid about this, but I simply can't understand how raising the cost of using money (borrowing) is supposed to lower prices. If it costs me more to finance a new lathe in my shop, I'm going to pass that on to what I charge my customers. I wouldn't expect the price of the lathe to go down, either.
One could argue that since the value of money isn't reduced by its use, there should be no charge (I think that's the Islamic argument against interest over and above transaction costs).
Anyway, we would seem to have plenty of evidence that low interest rates are what kept the economy humming--to the extent it did. Playing with the interest rates now is largely an effort to "regulate the economy"--a rather dubious principle in a society that swears by the self-regulating market.
So many inconsistencies-----
States
States might have some utility when there are no checks and balances in the federal government. Admittedly, any protection from insanity in D.C. may only be an illusion. Counties may be better boundaries for congressional districting than the Tom DeLay-style jigging after each census.
States might have some utility when there are no checks and balances in the federal government. Admittedly, any protection from insanity in D.C. may only be an illusion. Counties may be better boundaries for congressional districting than the Tom DeLay-style jigging after each census.
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by: Tara Liloia on Wednesday, 07/19/06 @ 09:31 AM
Southern DFA-Link Highlights: July 19th
by: Tara Liloia on Wednesday, 07/19/06 @ 09:31 AM
word --> work
And once again we learn the weakness of spellcheckers. If it's still a work...I mean word...it doesn't find it.
And once again we learn the weakness of spellcheckers. If it's still a work...I mean word...it doesn't find it.
Morning Rich
All valid questions re state lines. Can't see it getting beyond a rhetorical discussion, and that a heated discussion, given the battles I've seen just over redrawing school district lines. Then again, the U.P. probably should be part of WI... LOL
The arbitrary, traditional lines are what they are, could use some tweaking perhaps, but as you said, would be being regerried, er redrawn...
All valid questions re state lines. Can't see it getting beyond a rhetorical discussion, and that a heated discussion, given the battles I've seen just over redrawing school district lines. Then again, the U.P. probably should be part of WI... LOL
The arbitrary, traditional lines are what they are, could use some tweaking perhaps, but as you said, would be being regerried, er redrawn...
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