I am sorry to hear that Democracy for Vermont has decided to endorse in this race.  I have been a Democracy for America member since its inception (of course before when it was Dean for America) and I am sad to say that I can no longer support DFA nor Democracy for Vermont.  I am resigning from both because of this endorsement.

Dean is still first.

Your reaction is a good example of why I and some others opposed DFA endorsing anyone earlier. My reaction might have been the same if DFA had endorsed one of the IraqDems.

from last thread posted by cC

Hi, all. Just lifted this from Caine's blog:

This is a great article from Nadar's VP candidate outlining Obama's limitations and voting record.

A must read.

http://www.beyondchron.org/articles/The_...
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MSNBC...is re-running the last debate.

54.

seashell :-)
Fri, 02/29/08

Thank you, god, for cC. Keith is running the last debate. Perhaps now some of you can hear him the way others of us have all along.

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Nobody's perfect and a lot of that article is about quotes taken out of the context, and content out of backround.

Don't thank god and you won't blame god

Thank you, cC. 

I love the spirit of the young people and that they are becoming involved in grassroots.

http://www.everyonecounts.org/

VT endorsement.   Not a good move.

Vermont, I love your endorsement.

seashell,

You posted this on the last thread:

Thank you, god, for cC.  Keith is running the last debate.  Perhaps now some of you can hear him the way others of us have all along.

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Who is him?

Wonder what will happen to Dean's wish for a "permanent campaign" and a party built on small donors?  There really just has not been time,  and the progressive small donors gave to everything but the DNC.  

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1868

s m, you need to go back and read cC's post at # 49 I think it was.

Or click on the above.  :-)

How many people actually voted in the group who endorsed, is my question?

 Out of what potential total of members?

Was registration on DFA-Link shut down to all new members, until all votes were cast?

 I don't trust online voting of any sort...sorry. 

Unless it's SurveyMonkey--to group members only; with full registration. 

The VT for Obama portal is where the action is.

 VT should easily hit at least over 65% for Obama.  75% would be wonderful!

It's TX & OH I'm concerned about.

Early/absentee voting is good. 

NYT's portal has all the debates archived.

Video, audio, & text. 

For you misty-eyed married women types (in denial).

Got plenty of $$$$?? 

NEW!--

From Work to Retirement: Tracking Changes in Women's Poverty Status

View | Media Advisory | Research in Brief

Report by Dr. Sunhwa Lee and Dr. Lois Shaw, published by AARP's Public Policy Institute, February 2008

Joe Trippi was just on NOW... interesting interview.

Good endorsement. A Hillary win would spell doom for Howard Dean's 50 state strategy.

Sharon, yes, is opposite of what Governor Dean himself speaks of and one thing he has voiced extreme disappointment in of behaviors on this campaign....fellow democrats holding a circular firing squad.

I agree with you.

I haven't seen a mention about the reports all over the place about the Obama campaign contacting the Canada Ambassador telling them to ignore what they will hear over the month about him going after NAFTA, "it's campaign rhetoric".


It seems Obama might not have been genuine in his opposition to NAFTA Reports that his campaiagn, Austan Goolsbee, contacted Canada to tell them not to worry about Obama's talk against NAFTA, it's just campaign rhetoric. And after the campaign denied it, Canada reaffirmed twice and gave name and date and said they were now going to cover it a 2nd evening.

Now, this is real bad when McCain jumps on this hypocrisy as well.

"From CTV News, "[T]he Obama camp did not respond to repeated questions from CTV on reports that a conversation on this matter was held between Obama's senior economic adviser -- Austan Goolsbee -- and the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago."

Earlier Thursday, the Obama campaign insisted that no conversations have taken place with any of its senior ranks and representatives of the Canadian government on the NAFTA issue. On Thursday night, CTV spoke with Goolsbee, but he refused to say whether he had such a conversation with the Canadian government office in Chicago. He also said he has been told to direct any questions to the campaign headquarters. [That exchange speaks volumes.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMpbpov-H...://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/29/84354/2510

More on that Canadian Television Story About Obama and NAFTA

February 29, 2008 7:56 AM

The latest from Canadian Television (LINK ) on that story that a senior member of Sen. Barack Obama's campaign team had reached out to the Canadian Ambassador to the U.S. to tell him not to take seriously Obama's fiery anti-NAFTA rhetoric includes questions about a conversation on this subject between Obama senior economic adviser Austan Goolsbee and the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago.

"I don't think it's appropriate to go to Ohio and tell people one thing while your aide is calling the Canadian ambassador and telling him something else," Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., told us yesterday as we flew from Houston to Dallas. "I certainly don't think that's straight talk."

ABC News' Jennifer Parker spoke to Goolsbee, a University of Chicago economics professor, Thursday who would not confirm or deny that he had a conversation with Georges Rioux, the Canadian Consulate General in Chicago.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/...

Many different sources and links
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/29/8435...

OOPS! Soulda made that clearer... Joe Trippi was just on 'NOW', PBS with David Brancaccio.

seashell,

I did read it, most was taken out of context.

I still support Obama.  100 percent.

New article by Paul Rogat Loeb

Calling For Obama

I admit it. I'm addicted. Since the primaries and caucuses began, I've spent practically every free hour reading article after article, and poll after poll, charting the shifting sands of the Democratic presidential race. As I've become inspired by Barack Obama's potential to engage ordinary citizens, and its roots in his organizer past, I've written articles I've hoped would help, talked incessantly about the campaign, and donated repeatedly--most fruitfully in a program that's allowed me to encourage other new small donors by equaling their contributions. But as I've cheered each successive victory and each new gain in the polls, I worry that my stance is just a bit too reminiscent of rooting for my favorite baseball team. It's time to do something seemingly more mundane, but always a bit nervous-making, and that is to get on the phone.

Click for more. 

"Vermont, I love your endorsement"

I second that emotion!

w00t!!

Canadians Deny Obama Call

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Canadians_deny_Obama_call.html

Let's be clear. If Hillary Clinton somehow manages to secure the Dem. nomination - Howard is finished with the DNC as is the 50 state strategy. I don't understand how any *Deaniac* can't see that. As Sitka likes to say *eyes wide shut*?

According to the source, Wilson exaggerated the communication between the Obama campaign and the Canadian official during discussions this week with Ian Brodie, the prime minister's chief of staff, who leaked the story to CTV.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4365922&page=1

Here's another video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAJYMgX4J...

mary, why do we keep repeating false claims that no one has anything but the opposite to back it up?

Hillary Clinton signed a pledge with Howard Dean and the DNC last year to continue the 50 State Strategy under a Clinton Presidency.




....ok, I'm off.

9:13 PM EST

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080301/pl_bloomberg/ainymq9hfaeg_1

Gay Clinton Backers Defect to Obama, Eroding Her Base

Kim Chipman

1 hour, 46 minutes ago

Feb. 29 (Bloomberg) -- Hillary Clinton cemented years of goodwill with gays in 2000, when she walked in New York's Pride Parade.

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Now some gay voters, who have been among Clinton's most stalwart supporters and helped her defeat Barack Obama in Democratic presidential primaries earlier this month, may be drifting toward the Illinois senator, according to political activists and campaign officials.

``Clinton probably is still a little bit ahead of Obama among leadership in the community,'' said Steve Elmendorf, a Clinton supporter and lobbyist with ties to the gay and lesbian communities. ``They have a longer and deeper relationship with her than Obama, but he has a good record,'' said Elmendorf, deputy campaign manager for Democrat John Kerry's 2004 presidential bid.

``Obama has presented more detailed position papers on gay and lesbian issues than Clinton,'' said David Mixner, 61

...

This time, Mixner is backing Obama. The Clintons have become ``a machine, and Obama's the young reformer,'' said Mixner, who joined Obama's campaign after initially supporting former North Carolina Senator John Edwards, 54, who dropped out of the Democratic race last month.

Musician Melissa Etheridge, who came out as a lesbian in 1993 at President Bill Clinton's Triangle Ball, the first ever inaugural event for gay men and lesbians, said earlier this month that she is backing Obama.

...

Yes, mary vb. Paul Begala was on the teevee a while back, saying that he prefers the Republican system which has some "winner take all" primaries. Called it "built in momentum". Hillary Clinton and her team will pull out all the stops to win this thing. And if they get in power, you can be sure the first thing on the agenda will be some retooling of the way Dems run primaries...to make sure they don't have to deal with another grassroots supported candidate coming so close to victory ever again.

The Carvilles and Begalas would rather lose to the Republican than lose to us. 

Linda, Did I miss your link documentation on this? 

Linda in NM posted..."some posting false emails about how Obama had double the Bills in his short US Senate Career"

Linda - Just look how Clinton ran her campaign. It was an 18 state strategy with no attention given to any red states. Also, did you hear her interview about TX and how it's just not in play in November? Plus, look at what she's doing with respect to Michigan and Florida? Now that they seem to be contesting the caucus portion of Texas - isn't that a contradiction with FL and MI? She doesn't buy into the 50 state strategy. Her pledge isn't worth the paper it is written on - again review her pledge of FL and MI.

Let's be clear. If Hillary Clinton somehow manages to secure the Dem. nomination - Howard is finished with the DNC as is the 50 state strategy. I don't understand how any *Deaniac* can't see that. As Sitka likes to say *eyes wide shut*?

 If Hillary manages to secure the Dem. nomination it would prove that the 50 state strategy is not working.

I believe the 50 state strategy will work.

Obama will be president.

Hey Jessica!! and Jennie

... well, just a few starks here.

I hope so, sunlight.

Pregnant Pause: A question was asked about Hillary's foreign policy experience. What is it exactly?

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/

wOOT DFA VERMONT !

This appears to be Clinton's strategy. A must read by Marc Ambinder.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/arch...

Aircell *-)-

http://www.gogoinflight.com/

34.(subject to change... sigh) :~(

mary vb
?? p.m.

... well, aint' we in a pickle now?

Let me again remind everyone that the honesty of the opposition to these liars and theives now in power, in my opinion, will make or break the race in November.

Sooo, i'm really undecided... (where's the 'hair-on-fire' gravitar?)

Paul Begala was on the teevee a while back, saying that he prefers the Republican system which has some "winner take all" primaries. Called it "built in momentum".

DLCers have GOPenis envy. 

34 became 37

... this is soooo embarrassing, wish someone handy with a server could visit Burlington. Please?

... nope it's 39 now!

The Carvilles and Begalas would rather lose to the Republican than lose to us.

That's why I expect, when they see that all really is lost, the Clintons and their minions will adopt a scorched earth strategy in order to keep Obama out of the WH, and themselves on top of the party. 

But McCain and his campaign are so bad and inept that the Clinton cabal still might not be able to stop Obama. 

Hey Sitka! ... is this scrambling of the thread comments an intentional thing or is it plain incompetance?

A very dear friend has been working on the Aircell project since 2000. 9/11 put a real damper on it. It's projected launch date for service is, 2nd Quarter 2008.

This is for and old (continuing arguement with MzLittle) 

*" When a force is rhythmically applied to a structure with the same period as that of the structure, the force is said to be in resonance with it.  Resonant forces do not produce large effects immediately, as impact forces do, but their effects increase steadily with time and may become catastrophic if they last long enough. If a series of wind gusts, growing and waning in pressure with a relatively slow period of ten seconds, were to hit the World Trade Center towers, the swing of the towers would slowly increase until the structure of the building might sway so widely as to collapse.  The story is often told af a Germany Army infantry company goose-stepping accross a small wooden bridge in rhythm with the period of the up-and-down oscillations of the bridge.  The company ended up in the river when the bridge collapsed under the resonant load of the goose-step."*

~WHY BUILDINGS STAND UP THE STRENGTH OF ARCHITECTURE  Mario Salvadori

corrrrrection

Hey Jessica!! and Jennie

... well, just a few sparks here.


(heck i just found it lol from 30 min ago)

... it's currently at 45 (but you'd better be fast)

Yea, those votes of his sure are out of context.  LOL

This appears to be Clinton's strategy. A must read by Marc Ambinder.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/arch...

Otherwise known as the "hail mary." 

Hey Sitka! ... is this scrambling of the thread comments an intentional thing or is it plain incompetance?

I've always assumed it's just bad software that nobody knew how or cared to fix or change. Danny said it's going to be fixed soon, and since he isn't a DLCDem, I'll take him at his word. 

If Begala thinks so highly of their rules then he's certainly more than welcome to the GOP.

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23.

Sitka
Fri, 02/29/08


Paul Begala was on the teevee a while back, saying that he prefers the Republican system which has some "winner take all" primaries. Called it "built in momentum".

About Marc Penn

As the CEO of powerhouse PR giant Burson-Marsteller, Penn heads a bipartisan corporate conglomerate specializing in influence peddling, lobbying, phony front groups, and manufactured hype. Penn, the network of companies that he oversees, and the corporations to which he answers, represent precisely what voters have come to dislike most violently about Washington: the relentless cultivation and manipulation of political connections to generate wealth for a handful of operatives, all at taxpayer expense and in blatant defiance of the public will.

There is no one in politics today who has ascended the special interest ladder as steeply as Penn. He's no Jack Abramoff, but in the public mind Penn, and the corporate structure that supports him, are an integral part of the same lucrative and corrupt system that produced Abramoff.

One way to get an idea of what kind of leader Hillary would be is to examine the hiring decisions she has made. What kind of people would she be likely to appoint if she were president?

nope, no definition of 'starks' that would really have made sense there except maybe "sharply delineated", but i don't think the plural works.

tap tap tap ... is this damn thing working. lol

o.k Sitka i'll hold my breath... here goes.

New Thread:

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24041

Danny
Communications Director

Hq, I am so frustrated!  You get it?

My second post was at @ 10:00 (post 36), which took a ton of time and I see my bro from Mass. post ...

9:13 PM EST

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The sooner the better, HQ.  More inside info / the better.

WTF already! Shit!

my 22 was to mary's 54 ... or not

my 22 was to mary's 54 ... or not

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You been away awhile, lill' buddy;-)

Democracy for Vt also endorsed Steve Howard for mayor of Rutland (Jessica was his campaign manager). Steve was for the war and lost big. Next, They will endorse themselves or other groups they control and promote. This is not what Democracy looks like.

I wholeheartedly agree with DFV's vote to endorse Obama for President. He stands for the policies of progressive conservatism and democracy from the ground up. I will be donating to DFA after Obama wins the nomination.

 C'mon over the the Obama blog now and then and get a whiff of the excitement that builds every day.

 Our time is NOW!

 http://www.barackobama.com/index.php