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So, Happy Boxing Day to one and all!
The progressive movement may be outnumbered and outmanned in the media. But it seems as though slowly and surely, much like the American people, they are realizing that those terrible crazy progressives who are to the left might actually be correct! Well this horrendous notion has caught on at Slate apparently. Why Progressives should forget the middle is fantastic and makes a case too many Americans don't want to hear, but that is vital to have OUR goals met. And it's something we should make clear during our conversations about primaries, unless someone who is willing to fight for the goals becomes elected, we're going to get more of the same old results.
What progressives should be focused on now is taking on the political movement that brought Bush to power. In short, what we need right now isn't Bush bashing—what we need is partisanship.
More under the fold:
From further on in the piece:
The question, however, is whether Democrats will take advantage of America's new liberalism. To do that, they have to be ready to forcefully make the case that progressive goals are right and conservatives are wrong. They also need to be ready to fight some very nasty political battles.
But any attempt to change America's direction, to implement a real progressive agenda, will necessarily be highly polarizing. Proposals for universal health care, in particular, are sure to face a firestorm of partisan opposition. And fundamental change can't be accomplished by a politician who shuns partisanship.
I like to remind people who long for bipartisanship that FDR's drive to create Social Security was as divisive as Bush's attempt to dismantle it. And we got Social Security because FDR wasn't afraid of division. In his great Madison Square Garden speech, he declared of the forces of "organized money": "Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me—and I welcome their hatred."
The piece makes a case for something that us DFA members recognize, but others don't. When you get past asinine labels, Americans are much more liberal than they believe they are. And they agree with us on a host of things, from universal health care to funding our schools and improving our stance abroad through diplomacy.
It's time to rise up and fight. It'll be a long nasty one, but the fight is worth it, isn't it? As the Talmud says: "To save one life is as if you have saved the world."
Dean is always first at the bfa!
TEHRAN, Iran - Russia is preparing to equip Iran with a powerful new air defense system that would dramatically increase its ability to repel an attack, Iran's defense minister said Wednesday.
The S-300 anti-aircraft missile defense system is capable of shooting down aircraft, cruise missiles and ballistic missile warheads at ranges of over 90 miles and at altitudes of about 90,000 feet. Russian military officials boast that its capabilities outstrip the U.S. Patriot missile system.
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makes sense..........Russia has invested all that tech no how and $ in irans nuke plants..they need some sort of protection form US/Israeli strike........
Chalk up another one for US foreign policy.......great job Bush/Cheney/Hillary and all the rest...
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But any attempt to change America's direction, to implement a real progressive agenda, will necessarily be highly polarizing. Proposals for universal health care, in particular, are sure to face a firestorm of partisan opposition. And fundamental change can't be accomplished by a politician who shuns partisanship.
For the Democratic front runners, "change" is just an empty slogan for the primary season. And for most in Congress, "partisanship" is as poisonous as populism.
Expect nothing but corporate pandering from them and you won't be disappointed.
Russia is preparing to equip Iran with a powerful new air defense system that would dramatically increase its ability to repel an attack, Iran's defense minister said Wednesday.
I'm for anything that will stop us crazy Americons from shooting ourselves in the foot again.
3. Well, now they'll have a bargaining chip. They'll tell the U.S. to take their missiles (and I'm not talking about Patriot batteries which don't work) our of Iraq and Russia will take its missiles out of Iran.
I've been telling you for months, if not years.
I'm for anything that will stop us crazy Americons from shooting ourselves in the foot d*ck again.
THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE
ignored by all presidential candidates
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/12/23/cccrisis123.xml
Crisis may make 1929 look a 'walk in the park'
Twenty billion dollars here, $20bn there, and a lush half-trillion from the European Central Bank at give-away rates for Christmas. Buckets of liquidity are being splashed over the North Atlantic banking system, so far with meagre or fleeting effects.
As the credit paralysis stretches through its fifth month, a chorus of economists has begun to warn that the world's central banks are fighting the wrong war, and perhaps risk a policy error of epochal proportions.
"Liquidity doesn't do anything in this situation," says Anna Schwartz, the doyenne of US monetarism and life-time student (with Milton Friedman) of the Great Depression.
"It cannot deal with the underlying fear that lots of firms are going bankrupt. The banks and the hedge funds have not fully acknowledged who is in trouble. That is the critical issue," she adds.
Lenders are hoarding the cash, shunning peers as if all were sub-prime lepers. Spreads on three-month Euribor and Libor - the interbank rates used to price contracts and Club Med mortgages - are stuck at 80 basis points even after the latest blitz. The monetary screw has tightened by default.
York professor Peter Spencer, chief economist for the ITEM Club, says the global authorities have just weeks to get this right, or trigger disaster.
They still have another couple of months before this starts imploding. Things are very unstable and can move incredibly fast. I don't think the central banks are going to make a major policy error, but if they do, this could make 1929 look like a walk in the park," he adds.
The Bank of England knows the risk. Markets director Paul Tucker says the crisis has moved beyond the collapse of mortgage securities, and is now eating into the bedrock of banking capital. "We must try to avoid the vicious circle in which tighter liquidity conditions, lower asset values, impaired capital resources, reduced credit supply, and slower aggregate demand feed back on each other," he says.
New York's Federal Reserve chief Tim Geithner echoed the words, warning of an "adverse self-reinforcing dynamic", banker-speak for a downward spiral. The Fed has broken decades of practice by inviting all US depositary banks to its lending window, bringing dodgy mortgage securities as collateral.
Quietly, insiders are perusing an obscure paper by Fed staffers David Small and Jim Clouse. It explores what can be done under the Federal Reserve Act when all else fails.
Section 13 (3) allows the Fed to take emergency action when banks become "unwilling or very reluctant to provide credit". A vote by five governors can - in "exigent circumstances" - authorise the bank to lend money to anybody, and take upon itself the credit risk. This clause has not been evoked since the Slump.
Yet still the central banks shrink from seriously grasping the rate-cut nettle. Understandably so. They are caught between the Scylla of the debt crunch and the Charybdis of inflation. It is not yet certain which is the more powerful force.
Ross Stone
December 24th, 2007
Starting February 2008, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) will put into effect “Advance Passenger Information System (APIS).” U.S. Citizens will need permission from the United States Government to travel on air and sea vessels from or through the U.S. That includes foreign visitors.
The Nazis in 1933 invoked similar cross border travel measures against Germans Citizens who tried to leave the country. Unlike America, Germany wasn’t building a huge fence on its border that could contain its Citizens. Subsequently Nazi police started checking Citizens’ ID Cards when traveling on local bus and passenger trains. Police selectively targeted known political and labor activists, and persons of interest. The police delighted in stopping targeted persons from traveling to work so they would lose their employment. The Gestapo referred to this as the “Don’t Live List.” Beginning February 8, 2008, U.S. Government ’s issuance of ” right to travel passes” will mirror Nazi’ travel-restrictions if the United States is allowed to stop U.S. Citizens using air and sea travel without evidence they committed a crime.
Perhaps by coincidence, Rep. Jane Harman’s current bill HR1955 “The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act” and S.1959 would create a “new government commission” with the power to determine which Americans and Organizations are “ideologically based toward violence”, promote or support “Violent Radicalization or Homegrown Terrorism.” Several vague provisions in HR 1955 and S.1959 such as “facilitate” could be used by Government to add thousands of activist organizations and millions of Americans to no travel lists. Anyone attending a “planned anti war rally” or environmental meeting could under these two bills be alleged as “facilitators” to promote violence or planing to coerce a government and its people.
Joining or contributing money to an organization that is subsequently deemed by the “new government commission” as “ideologically based toward violence” might get a lawful Citizen on a corporate or government no hire black list.
How the Nazis expanded its “Don’t Live List.”
After thousands of Germans were prohibited from leaving Germany, the Nazi Government ordered landlords not to harbor or rent to Jews, anyone the Nazis said were on their black list. Soon targeted citizens and several ethic groups had no employment, no place to live except the street. Displaced and starving these citizens were easily arrested for loitering and under broad provisions of “1933 German Discriminatory Decrees” that are too similar to provisions found in the Patriot Act.
Sphere: Related ContentAngela Schierholz
Zawya
December 26, 2007
The global homeland security business is flourishing and governments and businesses worldwide are expected this year to spend over AED 216 billion ($59 billion) to thwart terrorists and secure their home countries, denoting a six-fold increase from 2000 figures, according to industry estimates
Is Hillary really a hawk?
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_russ_wel_071226_hillary_s_telling_th.htm
Stephen Zunes demonstrates in a three-part blockbuster series on Foreign Policy in Focus, Hillary's not talking tough just to win votes. Far from the option of last resort for her, force comes in a much-too-close-for-comfort second to diplomacy.
In articles on her Iraq, military, and international law policies, Zunes demonstrates that they're consistent with those she supported, and even advocated, while her husband was president.
Reading all three will outfit you with all the talking points you need to disarm a Hillary supporter. We've cherry-picked the most eye-opening.
- Of her White House days, Zunes writes that "when President Bill Clinton and others correctly expressed concerns that bombing Serbia would likely lead to. . . ethnic cleansing in Kosovo, Hillary Clinton successfully pushed her husband to bomb that country anyway."
- She also defended the bombing raid on the Sudanese chemical-weapons-plant-that-wasn't. (If you'll recall, it was a pharmaceutical plant.)
- Hillary supports military aid, including missiles which can be nuclear weaponized, to Israel, Pakistan and India, all of which have refused to sign the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty. She even voted to end restrictions on US nuclear cooperation with such states.
- After defending Israel's right to occupy Palestinian territory, not to mention its erection of The Wall, she denounced the International Court of Justice for calling on Israel to abide by international humanitarian law.
- Besides supporting her husband's bombing of Iraq, Hillary, Zunes writes, "has expressed pride that [his] administration changed underlying U.S. policy toward Iraq from 'containment' to 'regime change.'" Hindsight may be 20/20, but imagine seeking credit for that!
- During the Senate debate over the resolution authorizing the invasion of Iraq, Clinton was the only Democrat to accept all of the Bush administration's claims about Iraq.
- When Barack Obama noted that the use of nuclear weapons against terrorists amounted to overkill, Hillary replied, "I don't believe that any president should make any blanket statements with respect to the use or nonuse of nuclear weapons."
As if the above weren't troubling enough, Hillary's stances and votes on international law are downright chilling.
- In 2002, she voted in favor of an amendment by Senator Jesse Helms (yes, you read that right) prohibiting the United States from cooperating with the International Criminal Court. In other words, when it comes to prosecuting for genocide in Darfur, don't look at us.
- After Israel's 2002 offensive in the West Bank, Hillary opposed UN efforts to investigate alleged Iraqi war crimes by Israeli occupation forces. Even more startling, she criticized President Bush for calling on Israel to pull back.
- Finally, she refused to support the international treaty to ban land mines. Then she voted down a Democratic-sponsored resolution restricting U.S. exports of cluster bombs to countries using them against civilian-populated areas.
- Just keeping defense donors happy or are these legitimate weapons to her?
To become sore or inflamed; fester. = rankle
Maybe we're wantin' to *ruffle* some feathers, lol!?
Sarah Thomsen
WBAY-TV
December 23, 2007
If you’re ticketed by Green Bay police, you’ll get more than a fine. You’ll get fingerprinted, too. It’s a new way police are cracking down on crime.
If you’re caught speeding or playing your music too loud, or other crimes for which you might receive a citation, Green Bay police officers will ask for your drivers license and your finger. You’ll be fingerprinted right there on the spot. The fingerprint appears right next to the amount of the fine.
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Re: Russian/Iran
Just what Bush has been hoping for -- a cold war with Russia and a reason to bomb Iran.
The Repugs twisted "minds" think this is a way to keep power. Maybe it is, what do I know.
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John Edwards Q&AEmail|Print| Text size – + By Charlie Savage Globe Staff / December 20, 2007 10. Is there any executive power the Bush administration has claimed or exercised that you think is unconstitutional? Anything you think is simply a bad idea?
Our Founding Fathers believed deeply in a system of checks and balances among the three branches of government. Whether on signing statements, disregard for the Geneva Conventions, or violation of the established FISA process to authorize warrantless and illegal spying on American citizens, the Bush administration has repeatedly attempted to increase the power of the executive branch relative to the judiciary and legislative branches, which does damage to the constitutional design of our government and violates our constitutional traditions. We do not have a royal presidency. We do not have a king of the United States of America. Whatever George Bush thinks, he is not king. And it's important for the American people to understand that their president respects them and understands that the Oval Office and the White House and the presidency doesn't belong to one person. It belongs to the American people.
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thanks for the link Joan
"We must try to avoid the vicious circle in which tighter liquidity conditions, lower asset values, impaired capital resources, reduced credit supply, and slower aggregate demand feed back on each other," he says.
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That is exactly what happened during the Reagan Depression in Iowa when farmland in my neighborhood went from $4000 an acre to $800 in about eighteen months. The conditions that caused it are very similar to the origins of the current crisis in the home mortgage industry.
caution is advised
the good thing about an incredibly debased currency is that it prevents a rush to cash under the mattress, who wants to get stuck holding dollars
The only real Progressive in the primaries is Dennis Kucinich. Even Edwards and Obama are not truly Progressive. After speaking out against the Iraq Invasion from outside of Congress before it began, Obama voted for every reauthorization (funding) bill for the occupation. Also, both Edwards and Obama have proposed mandatory insurance as a health care plan. Dennis Kucinich is the only candidate for the Presidency who has actually proposed a single-payer health care plan (Medicare for all). He is also the only candidate who has promised to end the occupation of iraq before the end of his first term as President.
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Eric
It is not necessary for a candidate to proclaim if he/she is a progressive during a primary or even a general election.
One only needs to watch, listen and ask questions if necessary to know in one's mind who is really going to be progressive and to what degree.
Then, too, the degree of progressiveness may not be so important as a president. Howard Dean was not all that progressive in some areas, yet we know he would have made (and may some day make) an excellent president for progressive-thinking Dems.
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You're welcome Phil.
Nite All --
The only real Progressive in the primaries is Dennis Kucinich.
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And he's gonna lose sooooooooooooooooooooooo bad.
#13, I edited it because I totally overlooked that.
Hi Folks,
quick drop in. With respect to health insurance, we have a health industry with all the complexities, horizontal links, and profiteering. Moreover, the health industry has volumes of information on Americans, and they play the games of ratings for high risk and low risk.
While we have wonderful technology, life saving drugs, we have also been inured to treating health providers the same way we do our super markets: constant testing, checkups, supplements (one supplement advertised itself as treating slime on the brain!), and we aren't going to be able to change that very easily: there's simply too many players, too much profit to be made, and it has become a major industry much like the dominance of the automobile industry.
We are being told that it's a simple fix; it's anything but that, and it's unlikely to be fixed. As American consumers we've been taught that pills fix anything, and we're pretty fanatic about it. I suspect the American public is way over medicated. Another friend remarked that we have the most expensive urine in the world with all our vitamins, supplements, etc.
So, while I find Dennis Kucinich's plan the most reasonable, I would bet my Christmas stocking that it can't happen.
There's something else going on, and that's the marketing of information about people. Google is a prime holder of enormous amounts of information on what we buy, our interests, what we do in our lives. How are they going to use this? There are no regulations at present.
A very complex world and ever increasing complexity in technology, and we ordinary folks don't know much about it or how it works. Will it be used against us?
Maybe that's why intelligence, character, experience, the ability to reason, think, and work with others, and a vision are so important in the candidate we choose.
Pat.....
I believe you describe Howard Dean, and there is no Howard out there.
There is one who is almost perfect on the issues however. Nation Mag. liked him best, but said Dennis had not lit a fire under the Progressives. Yet, Progressives took the internet test to determine their candidate, and they said "OMG I'm for Kucinich"! Why is it that the "Right" or whoever they are, can get behind a Ron Paul (not pretty either) and donate 6 million in a day to propel him in the polls where the media doesn't ignore him.
Why is it, since Dennis is a Progressive's dream with the issues, don't they get behind him and propel him in the polls like Paul? We'll never win if we think we're not quite good enough, that our candidate doesn't please what we think everyone else wants instead of what we want.
This is a mildly interesting article about a fellow from the national archives with 34 years of gov't service who is resigning perhaps partly over the battles with the Office of the VP over whether it was part of the archives rules:
THE WHITE HOUSE
Challenging Cheney
A National Archives official reveals what the veep wanted to keep classified--and how he tried to challenge the rules
By Michael Isikoff | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Dec 24, 2007
http://www.newsweek.com/id/81883/page/1
Thanks, Daniel. Most of the time, you bring us things even we don't want to think about...but IMO it's happening.
Over medicated and under meditated. And I'm a huge believer in homeopathy and naturopathy. I had an oncologist who told me that he always recommends supplements, many of which have been tested and proven to prevent cancer reoccurence ( and other diseases). Like anything else, you have to choose wisely.
Where would many of us be without antibiotics? Likely, dead. Or chemo? Likely, dead.
Speaking of chemo, Denise, thank you for being an integral part of the community that is developing drugs to halt cancer. Bless you.
Hi Audrey,
Yes, I'm definitely a Dean and Gore idealist with respect to balance, pragmatism, experience, the ability to see the whole picture.
I'd vote for Dennis Kucinich. Actually, the only democrat I'd have some difficulty voting for is Hillary, and a lot of that has to do with her temperament and not wanting the whole Hillary/Bill scene all over again.
I sat on a Town Council years ago, and even in a tiny town, it's very difficult to see an issue as absolutely black or white. For instance, we had to vote on a new sewage treatment system. The big company gave us the best deal, had the most detailed plans, etc. The smaller company was local, knew people, promised a quality treatment as well. I've forgotten which one we chose, but the one we did select defaulted. This was after lots of meetings, lots of information to try to understand what a sewage treatment system had to do, finances, experts, etc.
Our issues are so complex today. I'm an English teacher and know zot about business. I talked to several people over Christmas who have degrees in business, who are working in techonology fields from health to information, and I recognized how fast and how much change is occurring, and how little I know and I suspect many Americans know. What I like about Obama and Dodd and others is that they are capable of complex thinking, and some are reluctant to make blanket statements that translate into sound bytes.
So, yes, I'd back Kucinich, but you are right in the sense that he hasn't caught fire with other than Progressives.
Thanks seashell, I appreciate that very much!
Amazing stuff happening, just the beginning with much more to come.
The Kennedy Center Honors are on tonight (on now in Chicago).
xoxoxo
Pat......
I agree with what you say. If the other candidates were really so capable of complex thinking, why are they not calling for Impeachment? The majority of Americans have figured that one out, not so complex in view of the evidence.
Nation Mag didn't say that he hadn't caught fire with other than Progressives. They said he hadn't caught fire WITH the Progressives.
That's why I ask why this group saw Ron Paul, iked what he said on the issues and got behind him right away. They didn't ask if he could win, or that other Repugs might not like him, or whether the Religious right would support him, or whether he was tall or coiffed or pretty?
That's my question. Why can't we do that? I wouldn't ask the question, if so many here hadn't demonstrated their support for Dennis on the issues.
Are they more pragmatic in that they recognize what is in their interest, and they go after it.
They don't seem to get bogged down in a lot of details, but keep their eye on the prize. Where as we keep stressing over details and miss the big picture and never really win, because we don't choose what we want.
I'm not speaking of candidates as much as I am "us".
I think you are right about us being a herd of cats, stressing over details, and not getting behind Kucinich.
I had a friend who lamented that she ccould always see more than one side to an issue, and she had trouble making up her mind. She gave me a rule that she said she followed sometimes: I'll decide when I get to the fork in the road, and then I'll take the turn that feels right.
Republicans and ideologues seem to feel most comfortable locking onto a position and never second guessing, never reconsidering. That might be viewed as strength in the short run, but I don't think it is in the long run.
Thich Nhat Hanh is his book Calming the Fearful Mind in a Time of
Terror proposed a council of elders to work through the UN to solve intractable problems. There was an aricle in The Christian Science Monitor where that exactly happened. A statesman who was Ethiopian went back to his home country and gathered a council of elders to try to deal with the civil war. They solved the dilemma this way. The rebels who had been condemned to death were pardoned as long as they admitted their guilt. Everyone could live with that.
Still there was another statesman who said that this wasn't a solution at all: it was simply going back to old ways that didn't work, that was pandering to various groups. So, for me, I'm truly tired of the promises and hype. It's difficult, detailed, complex work, and all I know for sure is that none of the Replicans running have the capacity for complexity, and most of the Democrats do, but will we support them?
Howard Dean had the charisma, so much going for him, but he didn't have the sophistication and the experienced advisers who could have taken control and worked the system such as the caucuses in Iowa. It was a hard fall, and it is a measure of his courage and integrity that he went on to do so much good for the Democratic Party, that he has a vision and he's working on it. It may save us in the long run. But, I don't think we'll see him as President.
Maybe things just have to play out, and we'll participate and ponder as it happens.
why isn't ron paul calling for impeachment???
and then...
...the only guy who can save us from ourselves: the big dad in the sky. yes, that's right, the big dad in the sky. he's handing out spankings and restriction like never before. look out kids, the big dad's coming to your town this holiday season, and he's promised spankings for all my friends...
Just what Bush has been hoping for -- a cold war with Russia and a reason to bomb Iran.
Like all bullies, NeoCons attack weakness, not strength. The more armed Iran is, and the more likely a confrontation with Russia, the more likely they will back off.
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Republicans and ideologues seem to feel most comfortable locking onto a position and never second guessing, never reconsidering. That might be viewed as strength in the short run, but I don't think it is in the long run.
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Sounds like some of the folk around these parts, too, as they refuse each candidate for one reason or another. Flexibility is a strength, as is humility.
Sounds like some of the folk around these parts, too, as they refuse each candidate for one reason or another. Flexibility is a strength, as is humility.
Give me something to choose from other than a steaming pile of Demoturds and Republicraps and I'll be flexible.
everyone has to set their own parameters for acceptability. real choices are derived that way. besides, not paying attention to the details is just not in my genes...
Off for a while. Your gut response make me laugh, Sitka. Fraid we aren't going to see the perfect candidate, nor even one that can evoke the passion that Howard did. Everything changes.
I read that the media is geared to the average 16 year old, that Americans read an average of one book a year, that 30 percent don't read a book a year. Not a very high level electorate to deal with, I'm afraid.
But, I love, have such hope for, have gratitude for this great country despite its terrible mistakes, its prejudices, corruption, hatred, and injustice at times in our history. The American dream was always more than just a chicken in every pot: it was opportunity to live, justice to protect and defend, aspiration for education, skills, work, and service; it was generosity, independence, rights, a voice and participation. It was community, pride in work, love of our beautiful lands, pleasure in being able to walk on them, to fish, to hunt, to picnic. It was pride in our infrastructure: libraries, schools, transportation, communication, government. Those aspirations were and are the American dream.
I hope we haven't trashed it, trivialized it, traded it for a pocketful of mumbles.
Night Audrey, Denise, Sea, Improv, and Sitka
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Oh I don't know Pat - some things never change. Thanks for your voice here.
I feel the same way about you, Denise. In fact, we're neighbors at least in spirit from the UP.
Night.
what things really never change? seems to me all things are always and constantly changing. for better and/or for worse. you think a thing has gelled and then you discover that its jello. moving to and fro, melting in the dining room after the other deserts have been served and eaten. only some want to eat this thing made from the most unacceptable parts of dead animals, and yet, there it is: jello. an instant package of never the same never unchanging crap that looks slightly artistic...
Oh mprov if you could peek into my mom' basement now, and how it was 40 years ago, you'd really see that things don't change. I swear it looks like the day my dad remodeled it back in 1965 - only thing that has chanaged is the washer and dryer. And we won't go into other rooms of the house..lol.
But I know what you mean. And now I want jello.
Official Bush Countdown Clock: http://www.officialbushcountdown.com/?gc...
Huckabee's team brought back three pheasants — one of which the candidate claimed he personally shot — and promised they'd be "cleaned and eaten."
Huckabee, who polls show continues to hold onto his lead in Iowa eight days before the state¹s caucuses — also joked the trip could serve as a metaphorical campaign message.
"Don't get in my way," he said while pointing to the three dead birds.
"This is what happens…You vote for me, you live. You don't…there you go."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Like all bullies, NeoCons attack weakness, not strength.
Does that mean that Rove is not a NeoCon?
what things really never change?
Why is change resented?
Once you have reached your level of comfort...
you do nothing to change your comfort level~
Watched a Jimi Hendrix Isle of Wright DVD
The essential quote by him was (roughly):
Love has to overcome the love for money.~
Hello Denise.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, (48-51) I'm out of here...................................................................
In my mailbox today:
Presidential Candidate Comparison on healthcare - from 'Iowa for Healthcare' (SEIU) - looks like a decent comparison, both democrats and republicans are included in it.
1 Pro-Edwards from 'Alliance for A New America'
1 Pro-Edwards from the Edwards Campaign
1 Anti-Obama from AFSCME
2 Pro-Hillary from the Hillary Campaign
2 Pro-Hillary from the American Federation of Teachers
1 Pro-Richardson from the Richardson Campaign
4 Pro-Biden from 'Operation: Smart Exit'
This was the heaviest political mail day yet. But there is always tomorrow.......
Hi sunlight!!
Hope you had a nice Christmas
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By Sitka on Dec 26, 2007 5:26 PM ESTDean