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Help Nancy Skinner, a True Progressive, get into DFA Grassroots All Stars finals
Nancy Skinner, a strong environmental candidate and a true progressive, is a talker and a doer -- and we need both in Congress.
For anyone who cares about the environment and slowing down the effects of climate change, Nancy Skinner is an ideal candidate. Nancy is running for Congress in Michigan's 9th Congressional District. In 2006, she came within 5% of beating 14-year incumbent Joe Knollenberg despite being outspent 7:1.
In 2006, the cornerstone of Nancy's campaign, in the heart of the auto industry, was to take away the subsidies being given to oil companies and to give that money to the auto companies to help them develop cleaner technology -- fuel cells, hybrids, etc. If this could be accomplished, it would help the environment, the economy and homeland security and would be a win-win-win. As we've seen the administration continue to drag their feet on solving the global warming crisis, this has become even more important, and Nancy continues to hold this position in her 2008 campaign.
After the floods in the 1990's Nancy realized how great it would be if some of the destroyed towns could be rebuilt off the floodplain in a sustainable way. But Nancy didn't just think about it -- she DID something about it. She called the White House and after spending a couple of weeks being referred to agency after agency, she found herself sitting around a table at the White House with people from many government agencies. Nancy presented her plan and it was approved. Experts from many fields (architecture, planning, environmental sustainability, etc.) were brought in and two entire towns were totally rebuilt off the floodplain from the ground up using environmentally sustainable methods.
Also during the 1990's, Nancy realized there were many conservative voices on the radio, but that we needed more progressive voices to get our message out. Somehow, rather than starting at some station in the hinterlands, Nancy got a progressive talk show on WLS in one of the biggest markets in the country, and she eventually was syndicated to 400 stations around the U.S. One day she received a call from two of her listeners, Anita and Sheldon Drobny, who told her we needed more Nancy Skinners on the radio. This eventually led to the creation of Air America.
While on the air at WLS, Nancy spoke out against the war in Iraq before it even began. The day the war broke out, she was told to stay home because she was the only anti-war voice, but when she came back on the air, she continued to speak out and didn't back down from her beliefs even though she knew what the consequences might be. That's because she has the courage of her convictions.
(Check out some video of Nancy on TV speaking out about the war before it started, as well as other issues at the "Nancy's Videos" link at her website.)
After being encouraged by her listeners and some positive polling, Nancy decided to run for the Illinois Senate. However, one of the other six candidates in the primary in that race was Barack Obama. Enough said.
Then Nancy came home to Michigan and did a morning talk show on the local Air America affiliate. In 2006, she decided to run for Congress against Knollenberg and, as stated above, came very close to winning. It is said by many experts that it takes two cycles to win -- one to establish name recognition and one to win. Well, Nancy has established name recognition, has a lot of support in the district and has shown that she can win by coming as close as she did. Now Joe is vulnerable, and it's time for her to win.
As you can see, Nancy is both a doer and a talker. She gets things done and knows how to get her message out. She is media savvy, which is very important in a modern-day campaign. She is authentic and has passion, courage and creativity, and once in Congress, she will vote her conscience and do what has to be done to bring about the real change we so desperately need -- not more of the same. She will be an independent thinker and not be beholden to corporations and the establishment, and if voting her conscience leads to her not being re-elected, then so be it.
Please check out Nancy's Web site at www.skinnerforcongress.com and consider voting for her as one of your top three in the DFA Grassroots All Stars Contest -- she came in second in 2006 and as of this writing is in fourth place. When you go to vote, you can read more about how progressive Nancy is at the DFA site. Please consider voting for her and moving her into the top three finalists now.
Too many threads. LOL
9:06 AM EST
Si se peude !:
http://news.ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=716008
Arizona's Rep. Grijalva Switches to Obama from Edwards
January 29th, 2008 @ 5:52am by Associated Press
Democratic U.S. Rep. Raul Grijalva of Arizona is endorsing Barack Obama after earlier backing John Edwards in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.
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The third-term congressman, whose southern Arizona district includes Yuma and parts of Tucson, is the second prominent Arizona Democrat to endorse Obama in the immediate run-up to the state's Feb. 5 presidential primary.
Gov. Janet Napolitano endorsed Obama on Jan. 11 after being courted by Obama and rival Hillary Rodham Clinton. Since then, Napolitano has campaigned for Obama in Arizona, Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico.
Clinton has led Obama and Edwards in the first of two recent polls but the margin between Clinton and Obama decreased in the second.
Grijalva had endorsed Edwards on May 3, saying the former senator from North Carolina ``has shown principled leadership on the way in Iraq and on economic opportunity in America.''
In the statement explaining his switch to Obama, Grijalva said it ``was not a repudiation of Senator Edwards, rather the understanding that Senator Barack Obama is the future.''
``The best opportunity to win in November rests with Senator Obama,'' Grijalva added. ``I am proud to support Senator Obama as we move forward toward the nomination. This election is not merely about moving the pieces around in Washington D.C., but to fundamentally change the rules of the game. I am proud to help Senator Obama work toward that change.''
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Tucson native and the son of an immigrant laborer from Mexico, Griljalva served on the Tucson Unified School District board and the Pima County Board of Supervisors before being elected to Congress in 2002.
seashell wrote "HC and JE look very comfy in their own skins. BO does not."
I've also noticed that his ears are somewhat large. On the other hand, he has a great collection of ties, so, you know.
Tom, just HOW is it that you always see these new threads first?
Good firsties, anyway.
Judy wrote "Tom, just HOW is it that you always see these new threads first?"
I don't have an answer for that. Refresh a lot? It's just a theory. I would check with Mike, whom I regard as the undisputed king of firsties.
Whoops, Al's channel is in trouble.
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Gore set to float TV firm to clear debts
Maria Esposito
Tuesday January 29 2008
Al Gore is planning to float his interactive television company Current Media in the US to pay off $36.5m (£18.4m) in debts.
Current Media hopes to raise around $100m in an initial public offering on the Nasdaq stock market within the next eight weeks.
The San Francisco-based business is looking to clear $36.5m of debts and accrued interest.
Any other proceeds from the stock market float will be used for working capital and general corporate purposes, said Current Media in its application to the US Securities and Exchange Commission yesterday. The company said it would issue 200m shares but did not confirm the price.
Current Media reported a $9.9m net loss in 2007 and accumulated a $31.9m deficit. The company said it had paid Gore and business partner Joel Hyatt around $1.05m each in salaries and bonuses last year.
The company, set up by the former US vice-president and Hyatt in 2002, has yet to turn a profit.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jan...
Refreshing answer, LOL.
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I don't know whether anyone over here has been following this HUGE bank scandal from the Other Side.
There are LOTS of questions being asked, as well there should be.
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SocGen in disarray as judges throw out fraud charge against trader
· Bank admits it was warned on more than one occasion
· Shareholders go to court over alleged insider dealing
The Société Générale affair descended deeper into the mire last night as investigating judges threw out the most serious accusation, attempted fraud, put forward by prosecutors against the trader behind the €4.9bn losses, Jérôme Kerviel.
They released him under judicial supervision, or bail, after two days of police questioning, leading his lawyers to claim a substantial victory. The surprise threatened to undermine the bank's increasingly fragile defence that he had used ingeniously fraudulent devices, including hacking into colleagues' internet codes, to hide his gambling on equity derivatives trading markets.
Kerviel ran up an exposure of €50bn, costing France's second-largest bank a record loss in banking history as it unwound his positions last week. The prosecutor's office, which wanted to charge him with fraud, said it would appeal against the release. He has been placed under formal investigation for lesser allegations of breach of trust, computer abuse, and falsification. "There is no fraud," said Christian Charriere-Bournazel, one of Kerviel's two lawyers, accusing Daniel Bouton, SocGen's chief executive, of "throwing him to the dogs" and "holding him up for public vilification."
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/...
Howard is very much focused on the 50-state strategy, even though a lot of people who should know better don't *get* it.
No state is too unimportant, and here is one important reason why.
This is also one reason why I WILL vote for whoever is the Dem nominee, even Hillary, if I must. Whatever her faults, she would not allow this to happen.
'Cain (or any other Repo) would.
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Bush opens 3m acres of Alaskan forest to logging
· Environmentalists say region will be devastated
· Supporters claim plan will revive timber industry
The US government has announced plans to open more than 3m acres (about 5,000 square miles) of Alaskan wilderness to logging, mining and road building, angering environmental campaigners who say it will devastate the region. Supporters say the plan for the Tongass National Forest, a refuge for grizzly and black bears, wolves, eagles and wild salmon, will revive the state's timber industry.
The Bush administration plan for the forest, the largest in the US at nearly 17m acres, would open 3.4m acres to logging, road building and other development, including about 2.4m acres that are currently remote and without roads. About 663,000 acres are in areas considered most valuable for timber production.
The move, the latest in a long-running saga over the Tongass forest, effectively reverses the "Roadless Rule" protection given to the area by President Clinton.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20...
This would not surprise me one bit. Khalilizad is almost as much of a double-dealer as is Ahmad Chalabi.
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US envoy accused of sabotaging Ashdown
· FO officials suspect Khalilzad played key role
· UN ambassador's office denies presidency plan
Patrick Wintour, political editor
Tuesday January 29, 2008
Guardian Unlimited
Senior Foreign Office officials believe the Afghan-born US ambassador to the UN, Zalmay Khalilzad, is planning to stand for the presidency of Afghanistan and played a complex role in advising the current president, Hamid Karzai, to block the appointment of Lord Ashdown as the UN envoy to the country.
Ashdown, the former Liberal Democrat leader who became the international community's high representative in Bosnia, withdrew his application for the role on Sunday in the face of Afghan objections, leaving western policy in chaos.
America and Britain had been lining Ashdown up for a senior role since October, and believed they had the support of the UN secretary general, Ban Ki-Moon, and Karzai.
High-level British sources believe that Karzai changed his position as he faced mounting objections from Pashto-speaking warlords and after advice given to him by Khalilzad, a former US ambassador to both Iraq and Afghanistan. Khalilzad is himself a Pashtun. British sources suggested that contrary to the official US position, Khalilzad had been warning Karzai that Ashdown was an interventionist figure and would weaken his authority still further.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,33228...
"We will not quit now or ever. We'll earn our country back for ordinary Americans.
" . . . .
"Now, in my generation was the last time I saw all this stuff going on with people your all age, under 30 years old.
"Now, when I was your age -- when I was your age, we did change two presidents and change the foreign policy of the United States of America.
"Now, the only difference is it took six years. And we've got six months to go before we're going to do it here.
"This is the changing of the generations, the passing of the torch to the new generation. It is your generation. And it's your generation that's fueling this campaign because you know that the half trillion-dollar deficit this president is piling up [is] going to be billed to you and your children, because of the terrible damage this president is doing to the environment are going to be things that you're going to have to live with.
"And we're going to change that. And you have the power to change that. And we are starting right tonight.
"We have just begun to fight. We have just begun to fight."
Thanks so much again, putzCo, for encouraging the Israeli invasion and siege of Lebanon in 2006 and helping to foment the continuing chaos since.
The harvest is increasingly bitter.
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Robert Fisk: Eight dead, and echoes of Beirut's bloody history reverberate around its streets
When is a civil war a civil war? A bomb a week? A street battle a month? For after yesterday's funerals in Beirut, this question is no longer academic.
Tuesday, 29 January 2008
When is a civil war a civil war? A bomb a week? A street battle a month? For after yesterday's funerals in Beirut, this question is no longer academic. Eight Shia Lebanese Muslims were killed in just two hours in the Mar Mikael district of the city in a shootout involving unknown assailants in – and this is the most sinister part of the carnage – the very streets where the 15-year Lebanese civil war broke out in 1975. Then it was a busload of Palestinians ambushed on their way home from the Tel el-Zaatar refugee camp. On Sunday night, it was a large group of Lebanese Muslims protesting against high prices and power cuts.
Did the Lebanese army shoot the eight dead? It appears that soldiers may have shot one of them by accident. But since one of the victims was the Amal militia's liaison officer with the national army, it seems unlikely that soldiers would have opened fire on him. Were there Christian snipers east of Mar Mikael? Soldiers certainly shot at snipers in the darkness around the Maronite church as bullets crackled around them.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/fisk/r...
11. Thanks for that reminder, Tom.
Howard IS continuing the fight in every way that he can.
And now, my day calls. Have good ones, all!
Hi Folks,
An excerpt from Truthout.org
I too feell that history was made yesterday, a significant moment, an opportunity.
Here's the article.
The Torch Is Passed
By Scott Galindez
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Tuesday 29 January 2008
There are moments in American politics when you know you are witnessing history. When Ted Kennedy, Caroline Kennedy and Patrick Kennedy endorsed Barack Obama Monday it was one of those moments. In front of a packed house of mostly college students at Bender Arena on the campus of American University, the Kennedys passed the torch to the person they believe will transform American politics.
As she introduced her uncle, Caroline, the daughter of slain President John F. Kennedy, told the cheering crowd: "Over the years, I've been deeply moved by the people who've told me they wish they could feel inspired and hopeful about America the way people did when my father was president. This longing is even more profound today. Fortunately, there is one candidate who offers that same sense of hope and inspiration, and I am proud to endorse Senator Barack Obama for president."
Senator Kennedy told the crowd that he "respected the strength, the work and dedication of two other Democrats still in the race: Hillary Clinton and John Edwards. They are my friends; they have been my colleagues in the Senate. John Edwards has been a powerful advocate for economic and social justice. And Hillary Clinton has been in the forefront on issues ranging from health care to the rights of women around the world. Whoever is our nominee will have my enthusiastic support."
But the senior senator from Massachusetts went on to say: "I am proud to stand here today and offer my help, my voice, my energy and my commitment to make Barack Obama the next president of the United States."
Countering criticism of Obama's qualifications, Kennedy had the following to say:
I know that he's ready to be president on day one. And when he raises his hand on Inauguration Day, at that very moment, we will lift the spirits of our nation and begin to restore America's standing in the world. There was another time, when another young candidate was running for president and challenging America to cross a New Frontier. He faced public criticism from the preceding Democratic president, who was widely respected in the party. Harry Truman said we needed "someone with greater experience" - and added: "May I urge you to be patient." And John Kennedy replied: "The world is changing. The old ways will not do.... It is time for a new generation of leadership."
Senator Kennedy also made a series of thinly veiled references to clashes with the Clintons over recent weeks. He said that Barack Obama would represent a break with "cynical" tactics of "demonizing" opponents.
"With Barack Obama we can turn the page on the old politics of misrepresentation and distortion," he said; "we can close the book on the old politics of race against race."
Mr. Kennedy is understood to have been repulsed by Mr. Clinton's alleged use of racial politics.
Even Sunday, Bill Clinton compared Obama's victory in South Carolina to Jesse Jackson's win there, reminding everyone that Jackson didn't get the nomination. Stephanie Wilson, a supporter of Obama, said she wonders why Clinton didn't mention that John Edwards or Al Gore won South Carolina. She went on to say that "we know the real answer to that; they weren't black, and Bill Clinton is trying to say that Obama only won because he is black. Is that why he won Iowa too?"
Apparently, Indy Steve is one to forgive and forget. I enjoyed this stroll down memory lane, reading his comments on the blog from July 6, 2004 when Joe Rospars announced that Kerry had selected Edwards as his running mate. They just go to show that once they apologize, people can change, as I feel Indy may want to when he reads these:
"OK, woke up to the news of Edwards. Kerry chose the potato chip candidate....great tasting, no nutrition. Kerry chose glitz over experience. As for choosing someone who is well-prepared to step into the Presidency in this dangerous world, he sure blew it on that one. And that will give Rove much to go on.
"I am dubious about the CW that Edwards, after the Bushco attacks start, will add much to the ticket in terms of winning electoral votes. Oh well, it's all up to Kerry now.
"Since I think we're (DFA and Dean) are about substance, not just style, it's a depressing choice."
Here's another:
"Edwards with his fake two Americas speech, smile and 'hope' will not shred Cheney. Cheney will attack Edwards' lack of experience and trial lawyer background, and will be very effective, sadly."
Not to be overshadowed by:
"Do people here realize that before 1996, Edwards had no interest in much except his own wealth accumulation and didn't even vote in many elections?? Now he is 2nd in line for the most important position on the planet?? Sorry, can't be up today."
Or how about:
"Sorry, but I prefer substance in our national leaders. And I don't hesitate to criticize this choice. I think Bushco. will effectively attack Edwards' inexperience and being unfit for President for his lack of national security experience.
"After all, that was always Kerry's main quality in a VP - ability to assume the Presidency. What happened to that? Lost in the hype."
I particularly like:
"There were many more qualified than this potato chip, people with substance. I would rank Edwards at the bottom, only above Gephart."
And the truly memorable:
"I'm not a smiley guy like Edwards. I would have preferred almost anyone except Gephart....and I think it caters to the lowest denominator in politics.
"WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT!"
No need to move on, Indy:
"I don't see Bayh as 'evil'!! He's a centrist, sure, but he has substance. Two-term governor, on to Senator in a red state. He would have appealed to swing voters beyond good looks and phony 'two Americas' stump speeches.
"It's pretty bad when most commentators say a man's main positive attributes are he looks good on camera and gives a good stump speech. Not happy here, if you didn't see that!!
"Sorry if some of you can't handle the criticism. this is the day to make it. If I'm singing this song in a couple weeks, then you have my permission to tell me to move on."
And in conclusion:
"I prefer real people with all their warts, than phonies. And Edwards is a phony, IMO.
"But if that's what the dems want to appeal to, then more power to em. We already have a phony in the White House. Don't need another in 2012."
'rep. Maxine Waters to endorse Hillary Clinton.
Maxine is one of my remaining heros. They're dropping like flies. The small group consists of Howard, Dennis and Bernie, and Maxine, now in questionable status.
I wonder why she is doing this?
Edwards cheered at rally
By Wally Kennedy
SPRINGFIELD, Mo. -- When Bruce Davidson's 13-year-old son, David, asked him to take him to Springfield on Monday to hear former Sen. John Edwards speak at the Teamsters Hall, he knew he had to find a way to get him there.
Wanting to encourage his son's interest in the democratic process, Davidson said, "There was no way I could say `no.'"
Davidson recently moved his family to Branson from Wisconsin. Davidson said that when he was a young man, he had been inspired by a speech he heard Sen. Robert Kennedy give in 1968.
After hearing Edwards, Davidson was asked to comment on what he had heard. He couldn't. There were tears in his eyes. Regaining his composure, he said: "What impressed me the most about his speech was when he said he hadn't taken a dime from a lobbyist. John McCain can't say that."
His son said: "It was an excellent speech. He said everything that needed to be said."
The Davidsons were among several hundred people who waited for more than an hour in a standing-room-only hall to hear Edwards, the Democratic underdog in the race for the nomination, give a 15-minute speech that was punctuated by applause and standing ovations.
Attending the rally were representatives of Teamsters Local No. 823 in Joplin.
Jim McCall, president of the local, said: "The Teamsters have not picked anyone to back. We intend to survey the members and principal officers after the primaries. We do back Edwards as much as anybody.
"The one thing we like is that he is totally for labor and working-class people. He got his education on a union income. He wants health care for everybody, good jobs, good wages and good benefits."
Edwards attracted a diverse crowd of all ages that included teachers, university students, laborers and veterans. One man, wearing a cowboy hat, stood up with a sign that read: "We know the state of the union. That's why we are here."
Edwards was introduced by Joe Maxwell, former lieutenant governor of Missouri. Describing Edwards as the man who will stand up for working people, Maxwell said: "It's our time to stand up to the corporations. It's our time to stand up to the rich. It's our time!"
Entering the hall to the song "Our Country" by John Mellencamp, Edwards noted that President Bush would deliver the State of the Union address later Monday and that he most likely would talk about his plan to stimulate the economy.
http://www.joplinglobe.com/local/local_s...
why do you have Howard on the list supporting Hillary? He is not, he is nutural.
Maxine is allowed to support who she thinks is best.
Just as they said here in Virginia that Mark Warner is DINO.
Well we are lucky to have someone with a D next to his name, cause here in Virginia the R's are so back assward it is not funny.
Hateful, homophobic and that is just for starters.
Centrists is what we need here in Va just to get elected.
Progressive? What's that?
And the fact that I can't even get DFA to get training is aweful. Yes, be progressive but do it on your own.
Gots to go.
Linda b........
I think you misread my post. I didn't say anything about who Howard, Dennis or Bernie might endorse. Howard can't endorse anyone. Of course Maxine can endorse anyone she chooses, goes without saying.
1:01 PM EST
For what it's worth, a AOL poll (if you want to vote in it):
I did, I guess I didn't understand it, can you explain? Thanks, didn't mean to disrupt.
And, Nancy, now that you are asking for our support - will you sign a pledge that you will continue to be progressive?
Or will you join the Blue Dogs when elected?
It has happened to the best of em.
New York chapter of NOW "betrayed" by Kennedy's endorsement?
(He picked the new guy over us!!!!)
And they're dissing Howard and Jim.
http://www.nownys.org/pr_2008/pr_012808....
I let my membership lapse years ago, and now I don't regret it one bit.
The new guy can win because he's inspiring.
The old guard doesn't OWE you anything, NOW. Has Hillary ever approached DFA for our support? I think not.
Count me in the column with those progressive men, and Howard & Jim, who want to take our country back, not give it back to the old regime.
Jane
Linda b....
well, it's only that, since Maxine is one of my heroes, I was surprised to hear that she would endorse Hillary, not my choice.
No problem, I wasn't too clear.
1:15 PM EST
from Obama's maternal grandparents' and his mother's home state of Kansas (part of the 50-state strategy started by Howard):
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080129/ap_on_el_pr/obama_sebelius_8
Obama wins backing of Kansas governor
51 minutes ago
TOPEKA, Kan. - Gov. Kathleen Sebelius on Tuesday endorsed Barack Obama for president, a Super Tuesday boost in a GOP-leaning state that Democrats hope to reclaim in the White House campaign.
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Tom Bearse
Tue, 01/29/08
I don't know whether to be flattered or freaked, Tom. You obviously have spent mucho hours specifically digging up past comments. That's kind of weird, in my book, but whatever.
It's not secret I didn't like Edwards much in 04. He has changed significantly. Become very substantive and more progressive. This election I have admiration at how he has stuck to his views, not pandered and still continues to plug on.
I guess that shows not only he can change with new information and good spouses, but we can as well. Nothing to hide from for me. Those who are stuck in the same old view are the ones to worry about.
linda b
Tue, 01/29/08
I second that wholeheartedley! We need followup on candidates that DFA selects and helps fund. That is the least we should expect from HQ and they haven't done it. So guess we'll just have to keep doing it for them.
I met Skinner in Chicago last summer and am pleased to see her at the top. But we do need to make sure she and others follow through and vote progressively.
Indy wrote "I don't know whether to be flattered or freaked, Tom. You obviously have spent mucho hours specifically digging up past comments."
No need for either. It didn't take any time at all because I wasn't looking for it. I stumbled on it by accident when I was searching for something else.
It's all the same to me that you can change your mind about candidates and their records. Maybe you'll support Gephardt next cycle. You were really all over him.
Indy Steve
Tue, 01/29/08
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Tom Bearse
Tue, 01/29/08
I don't know whether to be flattered or freaked, Tom. You obviously have spent mucho hours specifically digging up past comments. That's kind of weird, in my book, but whatever.
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Indy Steve -
You wrote a book ?
I thought Michael was the only writer in our midst ?
Audrey, I love Maxine too. I tried to get her to speak at our Women's Caucus Breakfast at JJ this year but she haf prior committments
I talked to ther at the TBA conf last year and just love her.
I think endorsements in primaries mean little, unless it is the one you want to be endorsed.
The winner should be backed by all.
I really am gone now.
you can't fix a problem until you have identified what is wrong
I back John Edwards because he has the best grasp on the big picture, but you could also take this country to a better place with Obama too.
probably wouldn't fix the cause, but even if edwards has correctly identified it he can't either without us
Tom Bearse
Tue, 01/29/08
Actually, thanks for the link to memory lane in 04. Lots of great people were commenting. The discussion was rational and respectful. And we even could agreeably disagree!
Where are all those folks now? Some are still here, Phil, Linda, me, but many have disappeared.
Phil wrote "anybody here that hasn't changed their support was a mole in the last cycle."
Dean's not running this cycle, so changing support isn't the issue. It's changing support to someone you considered "a depressing choice" with a "fake two Americas speech" and a "lack of experinece," with "no interest in much except his own wealth accumulation," and who was "unfit for President for his lack of national security experinece" that I found noteworthy.
Maybe unlike Indy at the time, you felt we could not "do better than that."
Phil wrote "I back John Edwards because he has the best grasp on the big picture, . . ."
You have to hand it to him then because four years ago, "we sure blew it on" "choosing someone who is well-prepared to step into the Presidency in this dangerous world," when Kerry chose Edwards as a running mate.
Tom how about a positive post for the candidate you back instead of trying to start a fight
Indy wrote "Where are all those folks now? Some are still here, Phil, Linda, me, but many have disappeared."
Sitka, lindab, vb and I were there. All except me were chiming in about how lame Edwards was. lol.
I won''t comment on Edwards anymore, but I will say........
Talk about having your head served on a platter!....
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Phil wrote "Tom how about a positive post for the candidate you back instead of trying to start a fight."
Don't fight about it. Like Indy, I was enjoying seeing what people had to say four years ago before the 2004 election blew up in our face like a trick cigar.
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34.Phil Specht
Tue, 01/29/08
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anybody here that hasn't changed their support was a mole in the last cycle
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Phil -
Are you still on mole patrol ? [smile] Kind of cold isn't it to be doing that at this time of year ?
Just ribbing ya:
I think John Edwards got a real good look at how business was done in the Senate by some. It has taken him a while to integrate that personal vision of a need for change into a coherent Presidential candidate's platform. He gives a plenty good speech, but it is not a call to end the fighting against the opposition, it is a call to win the battle. Those that want to exit that field do have an alternative. I can't say why people are attracted to Hillary instead of John. I do think those attracted to Obama want the fighting to end.
Phil wrote "I think John Edwards got a real good look at how business was done in the Senate by some."
He always has his epiphany immediately after the moment it was required. After voting for the Iraq invasion authorization, among other egregious legislation, he turned into a real firebrand populist with armloads of useful advice for lawmakers. After earning a half million dollars as a hedge fund consultant, he's decided these ponzi scheme robber barons shouldn't get preferential tax treatment.
Doesn't that make you tremble at the idea of him ascending to the presidency? Based on historical precedent, he won't master the fine points of the office until after having bungled though his entire term or, worse yet, terms.
Tom wrote: Doesn't that make you tremble at the idea of him ascending to the presidency?
No. I want someone who can take in new information and craft proposals as conditions change on the ground. Staying stuck in old habits/views is what we have had for far too long.
2:19 PM EST
55.Phil Specht
Tue, 01/29/08
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Its 8.54 pm Tuesday..............
~~~~~it is 10:20CST A.M. in my time machine, I took the poll and rdorgan needs to put the word out to his Obamabuds thay are behind
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Phil -
Thanks for voting in the poll (Edwards is still holding steady, so that's good -- his % added to Obama's % in the AOL online poll, gets them ahead of Clinton's %).
What I've noticed though, since last posting the poll this morning, the following states barely in Clinton's column, have flipped to barely in Obama's column -- WA, ID, WY, UT, ND, ME, DE.
Staying steady in Obama's column are -- MN, IA, WI, IL, MI, IN, VT, CT, MD, DC, VA, NC, SC, GA, AL, AK, HI.
Indy wrote "Mike was there too, writing in a southern draaawl!"
Irony fans should take note that you mentioned your astonishment at finally agreeing with Sitka about something, namely, what a worm Edwards was.
Indy wrote "I want someone who can take in new information and craft proposals as conditions change on the ground."
Yeah, but that won't happen until Edwards' successor assumes office.
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By Tom Bearse on Jan 29, 2008 9:01 AM ESTDean is first, and Nancy Skinner is cool.