The Watercooler for 07/09/08 12:00 AM

no one at dfa but me...la, la la , la la...

guess i can post any thing i want just because i want to.  isn't that the point of the WC?  crap that doesn't actually smell bad???  might be visually displeasing, but hey, what's the difference...nobody can complain, its the WC...hey, did you notice that so and so's legs are fat, so and so can't turn work in on time, and so and so had just got a bad attitude...

...my "comment was successfully added..."

lat's talk about guitar scale length.  usually, people don't mention such a subject.  its just too out of bounds for them to think about.  but, to the typical gutarist, its something that just has to be considered. 

shorter scale length may provide an easier change between chord voicings.  those with larger finger tips may decide that this is a disadvantage owing to the fact that you can't fit your fingers properly in the freted area.  when choosing a guitar, scale is directly proportional to the area that your finger tips require in the freted area.  therefore, up scale fretting may require more thinking.  can you, or can't you, actually fit your finger tips into the required freted area?  well, that's a good question.

Unfortunately our Democrats are still supporting it. 

Coalition of 27 groups opposes the FISA bill.

Why are Democrats so hell bent on telecom immunity? And why stand up and allow people to stop the vote over and over if they were always going to cave? I mean, obviously, they want to cave...

I guess it comes down to corporate money? I hope Obama's no corporate or lobbyists money policy spreads. It could clean up Congress.

...whence the money hense the vote...how is this a no brainer charles???  in addition, those back room deals and info-conferences between bushco and the leadership, put the leadership in a liable position, if not legally, then at least politically.  vanquish the state in order to retain the helmsmanship of the rudder.  no?

come on, at least argue with me...

cause I pretty much agree. I think we need clean money for campaigns. If we pay for it, then electeds (democrat or republican) would no longer be on the lobbyist payroll.

Why does Obama change his vote on FISA if he doesn't take money from corporations like AT&T?  Why would he flip?

We absolutely agree that the collusion between Bush Co and Congress is beyond disturbing and likely criminal.

Think about what we know already... while these guys are still in power... and it is amazing how much we know. We KNOW they broke the law to spy on Americans. We KNOW they tortured/torture. We KNOW they leaked the name of an undercover CIA agent (something which I still believe is treason). We KNOW they cooked the books to led us into war. Even more amazing is that this list goes on and on.

How much more is there? What don't we know?

clean money, ok.  fair elections, ok.  open softare, ok. 

the "flip" on fisa is that it retains the "powers" he thinks the feds need.  i disagree, btw.  the bill doesn't protect the com guys from criminal prosecution, just civil.  now, i think civil should be on the table, but the ptb don't think so, so either we let this be or elect another set of individuals.

where from here...

as to what "we" know...the american public isnt up to that challenge...they're sleeping in the dark, and rest asurred, they want to stay there....

oh, dreams where can i be

where can you take me

what am i supposed to be....

ok, manana...i'm out of here....

America sleeps while our leaders destroy us in so many ways. I think the Bush administration has a similar opinion of people however... it is their believe that Americans are afraid of everything that keeps them from telling us the truth about our relationship with Saudi Arabia for example.

So while I think they are asleep... I at least have some confidence that when we get our message heard, people DO wake up and change... the problem is getting loud enough to break through the zombie BS of modern culture.  A culture that thrives on non-involvement.  It gets back to -- if we ain't involved then no one notices who runs the show... and that will be true even if we have clean money.

I like Barack a lot. I have a lot of hope for what change will come. But I don't buy his reason for voting the wrong way on this new FISA bill. I think it is political bs and not forward thinking. That said, I plan to take him at his word that he will revisit the issues moving forward... with a strong Attorney General to investigate criminal changes.

It's late. Good night.