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- Dean is First

By publius on Aug 26, 2008 5:14 PM EDT

 

Bearse,

1980 Kennedy Speech Game Changing?

Didn't the game end up with Ronald Reagan digging liberalism's grave?

Hope that Denver 08 is remembered as the year of the resurrection. 

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- Cloud

By Tom Bearse on Aug 26, 2008 6:24 PM EDT

No, it was not game changing, as I explained to Fox.  Don't tell me you read with the same comprehension he does?

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- Will endeavor to read thru threads

By publius on Aug 26, 2008 7:53 PM EDT

for the rest of the story prior to reply

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- 1980 was not Ted's finest hour.

By Sitka on Aug 26, 2008 8:12 PM EDT

Carter wanted Ted to stand with him in the the old raised hands photo-op. Instead, Ted patted him on the back and walked off the stage.

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- Poor Style.

By Tom Bearse on Aug 26, 2008 9:56 PM EDT

And probably not the gravest of Kennedy's missteps, but he gave one of the greatest political speeches I've ever heard.

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- Howard's tribute

By audrey.nc on Aug 26, 2008 5:34 PM EDT

does anyone know when the rallies for tribute to Howard Dean are supposed to occur?    they were mentioned in the schedule for Mon, Tues, party on Wed. and a ra;;y on Thurs.    So far I haven't seen one.  Anyone else see one?

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By Annilow on Aug 26, 2008 5:42 PM EDT

More than the airlines fubar'd on the web today -- every place I've been has been slow as Christmas.

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- Eugene Robinson, on fretting Democrats

By Hu Jo on Aug 26, 2008 6:04 PM EDT

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080825_fretting_all_the_way_to_the_white_house/

 

 

If they want to win in November, Democrats have one task to accomplish this week: Snap out of it.

Somehow, tentativeness and insecurity have infected a party that ought to be full of confident swagger. It’s not that Democrats don’t like their odds of winning the presidency and boosting their majorities in both houses of Congress. It’s that they are even bothering to calculate and recalculate those odds.

That’s what you could catch Democrats doing last weekend as they assembled for the convention. We’ll win, they would say, but we just have to do this or Barack Obama just has to do that or the Clintons have to do this, that and the other. And the stars have to align just so.

People, the stars don’t line up any more auspiciously than this. George W. Bush is to presidential unpopularity what Michael Phelps is to aquatic velocity.

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- I'm afraid Rush limabaugh got one thing right.

By Sitka on Aug 26, 2008 8:50 PM EDT

Too many Democrats are hand wringing Fraidy-Crats. Instead of obsessing about the disunity meme being pushed by McDesperate's disciples of Rove, and parroted in the corporate newz, they should be realizing that the unrelenting attacks on Obama during the past 6 weeks have been directed at McWeak's own wavering base who have never liked him and must be made to hate Obama in order to get their support.

 

And after 6 weeks of the ugliest smears in our generation, Olbermann pointed out last night that Obama has actually GAINED on McLame in the "likely voter" polling.

Enjoy...

 

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- More Robinson

By Hu Jo on Aug 26, 2008 6:06 PM EDT

 

The Republican candidate for president is a wooden, uncharismatic denizen of Washington whose “maverick” image belies the fact that he has supported Bush on practically every big issue. The economy is sagging, the financial system is in crisis and gasoline prices remain punishingly high. In recent polls, as many as eight out of 10 Americans have said the country is on the wrong track. You don’t need a soothsayer to read omens like these.

Since I landed here Saturday night, though, I haven’t heard a lot of Democrats crowing about the terrible whuppin’ they’re about to administer. I’ve heard predictions of victory, yes, but also a lot of questions. Will Hillary Clinton’s die-hard supporters refuse to lay down their arms, even if their champion begs them to? Will an unreconciled Bill Clinton steal the show? Will Obama’s acceptance speech at Invesco Field be so stirring and poetic that the Republicans will slam him again for excessive eloquence?

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- Your Prescience is Showing

By Tom Bearse on Aug 26, 2008 6:58 PM EDT

You've said the same thing for weeks.

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- Things they don't tell you. Dean outraised McAuliffe.

By floridagal . on Aug 26, 2008 6:07 PM EDT

You just never hear that.    But he did according to the WP.   He just spent it on rebuilding instead of growing McAuliffe's glass wall with tributes to big donors.

Dean outraised McAuliffe.   I thought so, I was right.

"From Jan. 1, 2001, when Terence R. McAuliffe took over the committee, through March 31, 2004, the DNC raised approximately $127 million in funds that could be spent directly on campaign activities. Between Jan. 1, 2005, and March 2008, the DNC raised $190 million, considerably more."

In case you are interested, here is the seating chart for the states...

Click through for the big image.

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- Thanks floridagal.

By Tom Bearse on Aug 26, 2008 7:01 PM EDT

A remarkable story and further testement to the complete leadership vacuum that characterized Terry McAuliffe's reign of terror at the DNC.

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- That glass wall was more important...

By floridagal . on Aug 26, 2008 8:14 PM EDT

than funding the state parties.  You are right...sad.

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- Firefox is asking peeps to upgrade to 3.0.1 -- I am ~~ maybe everyone else is too. I don't even have a comment box, LOL!

By puddle on Aug 26, 2008 6:13 PM EDT
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By Thomas Janowski on Aug 26, 2008 6:55 PM EDT

What does everyone make the the meeting that took place between Hillary's brother and top advisors in the McCain campaign? 

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- I have only heard headline reports

By Imn2Paine on Aug 26, 2008 7:59 PM EDT

but my take on that much

shades Hillary with my instant disfavor.

Big deal.  Not too important to me, but may enliven the Party of hate and bigotry.

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- Hillary's brothers

By volney simmons on Aug 26, 2008 7:09 PM EDT

Are totally shady characters. They make Billy Carter look like a statesman.

I'm sure they were trying to make some money from the McCain campaign. But the question is, what did Hillary know and when did she know it?

BTW, NBC just showed a color check of five different colored by otherwise identical blazers Madame is choosing among for tonight.

-- volney

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- Billy carter

By mary vb on Aug 26, 2008 7:37 PM EDT

Didn't he have a beer named after him?  Billy Beer?  Hilarious.  

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- Should have been "but", not "by"

By volney simmons on Aug 26, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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By Imn2Paine on Aug 26, 2008 7:48 PM EDT

I'm waitin' for the man ...with the goods.  I'm jonesin'.  Where is he, man!

Obama/Biden'08

http://hypem.com/artist/the+velvet+underground

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- A calming tune

By Imn2Paine on Aug 26, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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- Carville is an ass

By mary vb on Aug 26, 2008 8:10 PM EDT

I saw a pic of him from another blog at the convention wearing a pair of - you guessed it - PUMAS.  Jeezus.

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- And Ed Rendell compared Obama to 2 time loser Adelai Stevenson.

By Sitka on Aug 26, 2008 9:01 PM EDT

Do these McCreeps think they're fooling anyone?

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 26, 2008 8:15 PM EDT

Cspan1 is The Convention sans high paid corporate hit persons.

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 26, 2008 8:43 PM EDT

Beulah - Me And Jesus Dont Talk Anymore


http://itallstarted.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/odd-spot-8/

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By Thomas Janowski on Aug 26, 2008 8:57 PM EDT

There has also been word floating around "out there" that leaders of some of Hillary's big Meet Up groups have also been seen meeting with McCain campaign staffers.

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 26, 2008 9:03 PM EDT

Is Rush Limberger on satilite feed?

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- Goes to prove they wouldn't have stuck with her through the General --

By puddle on Aug 26, 2008 9:39 PM EDT

were just up to no good as far as *our* primaries were concerned, and then wouldv'e gone home.  Perfect rePuclicanism, lol! 

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 26, 2008 9:04 PM EDT

Gov K athleen Sebelius

D-Kansas

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- Nap Time

By Tom Bearse on Aug 26, 2008 9:58 PM EDT

Someone go wake up seashell.

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 26, 2008 9:06 PM EDT

Homes

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 26, 2008 9:08 PM EDT

-there's no place like home.

-communities and geneational home ownership.

-'Cain and the Country Club sect

 

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 26, 2008 9:10 PM EDT

Energy

-jobs

-renewable ('Cain will renew Bush policies)

-Dems take mantle of Lincoln (wOOt!)

-touch the stars

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 26, 2008 9:49 PM EDT

Warner

-The United States of America

-A FAIR SHOT / not...a long shot

-Bush never really asked the People to stand up ("how can I do my part")

-'Cain is "four more years we can't afford"

 

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- warner

By mprov on Aug 26, 2008 9:50 PM EDT

i hope he stays in VA.  i can barely listen to his speech...

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- Awful

By Tom Bearse on Aug 26, 2008 9:59 PM EDT

First atrocious mistake of the convention.

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- agreed!!!!

By mprov on Aug 26, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
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By Annilow on Aug 26, 2008 9:51 PM EDT

I got a call from the Obama campaign tonight.  They are having an organizing meeting Friday afternoon in City Hall in my tiny, Redneck, Repug, rumored to be 3K town.  I'm going.

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By mprov on Aug 26, 2008 9:53 PM EDT

...it's not about liberal versus conservatism...

does this guy live on another planet???

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- is this...

By mprov on Aug 26, 2008 10:03 PM EDT

...grand 'ol DNC night at the 'ol convention...they sure won elections.  didn't they???

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By mary vb on Aug 26, 2008 10:08 PM EDT

I must have missed why Warner is so popular?  Please linda b, fill me in.

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Is it the media or actual events that are taking place about all the Clinton dissent?  Because if this keeps up - these folks will not vote for Barack in the hopes of a 2012 shot with Clinton.  I am so fed up with hearing about the Clintons.  This is Barack's convention for gawd sakes.

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- For *Virginia* he's very progressive. . . .

By puddle on Aug 26, 2008 10:57 PM EDT

Imagine that.

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- For a Jerome Armstrong POV

By mary vb on Aug 26, 2008 10:10 PM EDT

on Warner's speech - click - if you can stomach it. 

 

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/8/26/21441/8127#commenttop

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- "Warner's speech was his opening salvo for 2016."

By Sitka on Aug 26, 2008 11:52 PM EDT

Pimping for 2016 at this time, when winning in 2008 is front and center for every real Democrat, is tacky even for "DLC" Armstrong.

 

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By Annilow on Aug 26, 2008 10:18 PM EDT

CSPAN says Schweitzer coming up...

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By Annilow on Aug 26, 2008 10:36 PM EDT

I'm hopelessly in HEART w/ Schweitzer :~)

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By mary vb on Aug 26, 2008 10:29 PM EDT

I've been watching Bill Clinton sitting next to a red headed woman.  It's very tight quarters but he's totally *in her space*.  Hilarious.

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By mprov on Aug 26, 2008 10:36 PM EDT

man, schweitzer's good!!!

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By mary vb on Aug 26, 2008 10:36 PM EDT

I'll take a Schweitzer over a Warner any damn day.  Schweitzer 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By raehart on Aug 26, 2008 10:39 PM EDT

Schweitzer Is Great!

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- Schweitzer Love!

By mary vb on Aug 26, 2008 10:39 PM EDT

We're not alone, folks.  check out the peeps at Daily Kos.  They love them some Schweitzer!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/26/221916/537/635/576014

 

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By Annilow on Aug 26, 2008 11:21 PM EDT

Gosh Mary Schweitzer is tearing up that poll at KOS...

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- Hillary

By raehart on Aug 26, 2008 11:16 PM EDT

I did not think I would ever say this, I think Hillary did great.

Also want to say I think Kucinich was great too.

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- 6 words...

By Thomas Janowski on Aug 26, 2008 11:20 PM EDT

Thank you Hillary, that was amazing.

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By mary vb on Aug 26, 2008 11:25 PM EDT

Best speech Hillary ever gave.  And that color on her was FABULOUS.   Of course Bill lit up when she talked about Pres. Clinton.  LOL

 

Thank you, Hillary.

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- I'd like to say again

By mary vb on Aug 26, 2008 11:28 PM EDT

that Brian Schweitzer is the man.  Daily Kos is showing him lots of love.  Go check it out.  2016 - watch out!!!!!!!!

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By Thomas Janowski on Aug 26, 2008 11:32 PM EDT

Tonight's Hillary was the Hillary expected to see throughout the campaign but never did. 

But then again, what she did tonight was nothing but words--amazing words.  And now she knows just how important words alone can be. 

I hope this causes Obama to step up his game because he can't be upstaged at his own convention. 

I hope the song/video YES WE CAN is shown/heard at this convention.

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- Great line from the KOS Schweitzer love in...

By Annilow on Aug 26, 2008 11:53 PM EDT

Schweitzer was on Ed Schultz last week and said you would be able to tell he was a Western governor because he has cowshit on his boots, but no bullshit in his talk.

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- Side Kick

By raehart on Aug 26, 2008 11:55 PM EDT

I loved Casey's line about McCain not being a maverick, he was a side kick.

It is being reported that Bill Clinton will not attend Obama's speech. 

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- Send Schweitzer some LUV...

By Annilow on Aug 26, 2008 11:59 PM EDT

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