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- If you missed Dean's Q & A on C-Span....

By floridagal . on Aug 27, 2008 1:26 AM EDT

here is where you can watch it.  He did a super job with some really difficult people calling in.

Dean on  C-Span, Q & A session.

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- Cannot Believe It

By raehart on Aug 27, 2008 6:08 AM EDT

Looks like Ted Stevens won his primary. Unbelievable.

Talked with a friend, she said voter turnout was low.  I fully expect Mark Begich to win the general, at least he is ahead in polling.  With that being said there are alot of Stevens supporters who think he is getting a raw deal.

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- http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/world/middleeast/27abuse.html

By Jo*in*Vermont on Aug 27, 2008 6:34 AM EDT

After taking small-arms fire, the patrol chased some men into a building, arresting them and finding several automatic weapons, grenades and a sniper rifle, they said. On the way to their combat outpost, Sergeant Hatley’s convoy was informed by Army superiors that the evidence to detain the Iraqis was insufficient, Sergeant Leahy said in his statement. The unit was told to release the men, according to the statement.

“First Sergeant Hatley then made the call to take the detainees to a canal and kill them,” Sergeant Leahy said, as retribution for the deaths of two soldiers from the unit: Staff Sgt. Karl O. Soto-Pinedo, who died from a sniper’s bullet, and Specialist Marieo Guerrero, killed by a roadside bomb.

“So the patrol went to the canal, and First Sergeant, Sgt. First Class Mayo and I took the detainees out of the back of the Bradley, lined them up and shot them,” Sergeant Leahy said, referring to a Bradley fighting vehicle. “We then pushed the bodies into the canal and left.”

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- here's the clickable link

By Jo*in*Vermont on Aug 27, 2008 6:35 AM EDT

I reached 998 characters so posted the link in the title - but it didn't work...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/world/middleeast/27abuse.html

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By raehart on Aug 27, 2008 6:56 AM EDT

How sad. 

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- this week -- so far, so good ...

By * rdorgan on Aug 27, 2008 7:31 AM EDT

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080825/480/2a4ecd0ab7484dd8a74bb64a243d21c8/

Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, ...

Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, addresses the Democratic National Convention in Denver, Monday, Aug. 25, 2008.(AP Photo/Ron Edmonds)

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- Iraq executions

By volney simmons on Aug 27, 2008 8:02 AM EDT

From the article:

"Sergeant Leahy, in his statement, said, 'I’m ashamed of what I’ve done,' later adding: 'When I did it, I thought I was doing it for my family. Now I realize that I’m hurting my family more now than if I wouldn’t have done it.' "

This is why this needs to end, NOW. This is a senior medic, who both committed a crime and violated the Hippocratic Oath because he was sold a bill of goods and/or brainwashed into believing government lies that any of this is "for our families". Bull crap.

Most wars come down to being about making the rich richer somehow. Period.

-- volney

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By Hu Jo on Aug 27, 2008 8:12 AM EDT

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- also from the ...

By * rdorgan on Aug 27, 2008 8:21 AM EDT

... southside of Chicago:

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080827/480/2bfde717c61545d98c2ec004abbc735d/

Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick speaks at the Democratic National ...

Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick speaks at the Democratic National Convention in Denver, Tuesday, Aug. 26, 2008.(AP Photo/Ron Edmonds)

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- Clueless

By raehart on Aug 27, 2008 8:24 AM EDT

Here is something funny from The Jed Report titled How Clueless Can You Get showing how clueless McCain is.

http://www.jedreport.com/

 

 

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- does anyone have any horse sense ?

By * rdorgan on Aug 27, 2008 8:37 AM EDT

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080827/ap_on_fe_st/odd_one_horse_town

Nebraska city council votes to evict aging horse

By NATE JENKINS, Associated Press Writer

Wed Aug 27, 4:27 AM ET

HICKMAN, Neb. - This one-horse town is looking like becoming a no-horse town.

The owner of a 32-year-old horse named Peter Rabbit wasn't able Tuesday to buck a local ban on livestock within city limits.

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but Scott said no one said anything to him at the time about having to give up the horse.

Scott has said he has no intention of complying with the Sept. 15 deadline. He faces the prospect of being fined up to $100 a day if he's convicted of violating the ordinance.

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- Schweitzer speech from last night is up on Youtube...

By Annilow on Aug 27, 2008 8:45 AM EDT
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By * rdorgan on Aug 27, 2008 8:51 AM EDT

I caught Schweitzer's motivating speech.

Others that spoke, I was also impressed with ?

Sebelius, Warner, Casey, Lily Ledbetter.

As for Hillary, what can I say ?  She did good.

I missed Kucinich's speech but heard it was good.

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By Annilow on Aug 27, 2008 8:54 AM EDT

I found the ones before Schweitzer yawn inducing and Hillary's all about Hillary -- just my take --

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By Annilow on Aug 27, 2008 8:58 AM EDT

Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer ropes them in at convention

DENVER -- It was Hillary Rodham Clinton's night at the Democratic National Convention, but party activists got a glimpse Tuesday of a surprising new breakout star: a jovial, round-faced warrior with a bolo tie who managed to attack Republicans while keeping a smile on his face.
By Peter Wallsten, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer 
August 27, 2008
The cattle rancher electrifies the hall with a speech that makes him a national figure. (my emphasis)

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