The Watercooler for 09/03/08 5:00 PM

and it's been over for quite a long time.

Obama is staying consistently ahead in all major polls.

Things are getting more than "over" for McCain, we are winning many more seats in the  House and the Senate to help BO in his agenda.

It's still too early for the polls to mean anything.  It's either going to get worse for McSame during his convention or it will even things out.  Palin SHOULD be a major stumbling block for the campaign, but what the heck, Bush was re-elected, so I never count on people seeing what's in front of their eyes.

Have not watched any tv since Mon, except local news thinking I would be escaping hearing about repug convention.  Wrong, I just hear Gov Huntsmen state that Palin would give a world class speech or something to that effect.  Yeah a speech that was written for Romney, with remarks added in to attrack women.  I hear Palin is quite adept at using a teleprompter.  This will be an acting job pure and simple.

I see on the internet that Palin's daughter and her future hubbie have been greeted by McCain, why do they keep pushing the children down our throats if they do not want them talked about.  Also why do they put that innocent special needs child in their photo ops.

Any bets on how many times Rudy will mention 911.

This is a soap opera.  It is bizarre.

Seen a photo of repug convention.  Why are republicans all old white men, and why do the women all have Stepford Wife deer in the headlights look.

Palin released a date (sept 11 - how convenient) that her son would be deploying and to where exactly.  My husband (former naval officer) pointed to her and said *oh no, that is not allowed*. 

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/3/171611/4782/777/585025

Drudge calls it *As the campaign churns*.  Yes, he is disgraceful but I keep up with the *enemies*.

An alleged affair...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/3/175658/0832/731/585071

Good gawd - even if this isn't true - it's now officially a SITCOM.

Does this sound like anyone you know?  Perhaps some rightwing evangelicals?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/3/152619/5057/917/584877

I totally agree children should not be pinpointed in campaigns.  However I do believe there is a double standard.

From Salon

Quote of the day

I don't usually engage in these scenarios, but I'll do it here. If the Obamas had a 17 year-old daughter who was unmarried and pregnant by a tough-talking black kid, my guess is if that they all appeared onstage at a Democratic convention and the delegates were cheering wildly, a number of conservatives might be discussing the issue of dysfunctional black families.

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/#

So I read Romney is going to take on Michelle tonight in his speech.  Stating he has always loved his country.  Isn't this sexist?  Anyway Mr. Mormon niceguy is going to trash a wonderful mother, faithful wife.  Guess he thinks women should steal other women's husbands, be former drug addicts, hide one of their children on the campaign trail because they are the wrong color, and lie constantly.

What a pompous p***k.

McCain said he didn't love his country until he was a POW.  I think he was in his 30s then.

just said on MSNBC that Palin's *ethics charges are nothing but a speedbump*.  So there you are folks - move on because Brokaw said so. 

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Well, I turned the teevee right off.  I'll leave the speeches to you all to watch.  I just can't stomach it.

So much for troopergate being a speedbump (Brokaw)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/03/AR2008090303210.html?hpid=topnews

Wow ~~ I've had 721 hits on baby so far today (500+ yesterday).  The bulk seems to be hits on this picture of Cindy McCain. . . .  If it IS republicans hitting, *this* is the page, lol!

http://eatapyzch.blogspot.com/2008/04/cook-thief-his-wife-her-lover.html

http://files.democracyforamerica.com/nightschool/How%20to%20Increase%20Voter%20Turn.ppt.htm

I'm waiting for the story about how Palin managed to get her hands on the `1.2 million the Dem. Mayor of Anchorage wanted from the Fed. gov't. for a roof on a sports center, I think.   Somehow the money was sidetracked to add a kitchen on to the Assembly of God church in Bussilla instead.   Maybe Fed. funds going to a church might meet Brokaw's standard.    I don't remember where I read it, but it's something I hope reaches Keith.   

They wrote their piece and Palin hasn't even begun to speak.  Wow.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_convention_rdp

That Hawaii had a GOP Lady Governor to advocate for Alaska's Palin.  She gave a good account of herself and the Delaware bit was a touche'.

Yes, Senators do grapple with national and international issues that mayors and governors aren't tasked with.  Did President LBJ reaaly say things could be worse - he could be a mayor. 

Romney is off the deep end, may he sink away.

Rudy dissing community organizers, he would wouldn't he.  Obama present votes in Illinois Senate are a weak spot.  Rudy about 15 minutes into speech and I haven't heard 9-11 yet.

Rudy is 'rallying the base' - pooey on him.

question whether Sarah Palin will have enough time to spend with her children

if she is Vice President."   And Cindy Mac approves "How dare they is right."

They must = media and bloggers since Obama put his campaign on notice that the children were off limits politically.

I actually feel very sorry for the Palin kids - particularly Bristol, the 17 yr old.  I think the Palins, McCains and the GOP are exploiting the entire situation.  My husband is watching the coverage (I just can't) and just said how truly sad it is to see the pregnant teenager sitting there on display.

Can you imagine how Obama would be treated by the press if he:

• had a pregnant teen daughter,
• was under investigation for misuse of power in his own state
• had dated a stripper called the Flame of Florida
• had left his crippled first wife for a younger, wealthier one
• and had belonged to a party that advocated secession from the U.S.?

http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/

I'm watching this crap.  "Our family has the same ups and downs as others."

And you can take that to the bank.  And she will.

I know you don't really want updates on this merde and that's good, because I don't think I will be able to update you.  My brain is turning to mush.

Seems RNC officials have asked all the male delegates to hand their seats to female alternates to provide the impression of vast female support for Sarah Palin during her speech.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/09/clear_out_boyz.html

Code Pink protester forcibly removed while Sarah Baracuda is giving Romney's speech with her bio added.

Okay - I heard my husband chuckling so I had to see (hear) for myself.  OMG - she's something.  That voice is so irritating.  I just can't handle it.

Now I know why this particular puppet was chosen from the fragrant bouquet of puppets available to McCain.  Alaska Oil.  Follow the money...again.

So fai it's oil oil oil.  Waiting to hear about the shrinking middle class and health care.

Lots of Obama bashing.  Lying about Obama's record.

Cool!  Her nose has just grown two inches!

I have avoided calling Palin a bitch.  But she sure is giving a great imitation of one. 

Ooh, Obama is worried about following the law!  What kind of a leader is that?

To be honest I thought she was going to make a case for why people should support her.  Instead she is just giving the standard republican fire hydrant speech.

then that magic alchemy that will give us CLEAN coal.

And, oh yeah, that solar and wind stuff is nice too.  

Get ready for a campaign dedicated to devouring  Alaska's natural resources while the tundra melts. 

Turn up the global thermostat America!

Choose life for the outdated Big Oil and Poison Coal, put them on life support for another generation. 

This is McCain energy policy. 

John Knowles wrote in A SEPARATE PEACE that "sarcasm is the protest of the weak person."  Or something like that.

Palin is finished now and I don't know what she has added to the campaign dialogue except some snark and some more lying lies.  And now she is using her baby as a prop...along with the rest of her out of place family...and her shotgun wedding gum chewing son in law.

But all is not lost.  McSame himself has just arrived on the scene.  He wants to know 'if he made the right choice for Vice President?'

Jeez, John.  Don't ask us.  You should have vetted her first and then you wouldn't have to ask..

Regardless of who wrote the lines, her down home sarcasm is impressive. 

Read earlier link to Lakoff.  He warns not to underestimate Palin as a candidate. 

Robert Novak credits McCain choice as political genius. 

Time will tell on how smart it was, but no other choice would have drawn this attention to their convention.

Democrats ought not to focus on her, just remind Americans of the results of the policies she rubber stamps.

The eastern-centric media has a problem with folks from the hinderlands. Montana Governor would have been an analogous choice for the Democrats  experience wise.  No way he would have gotten the same treatment. 

I thought much of the media hyper-critical-vindictive Hillary coverage was mostly trying to get Bill Clinton to go away.  They had tried, unsuccessfully, since 1992 to run him off.  Palin coverage confirms gender bias drips and spills from the MSM.

is an oxymoron.

from Josh Marshall.  Here's the teleprompter.  I kid you not.  Someone can't pronounce nuclear properly. 

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Nukes

state, and national dems. 

Caught most of Palin's speech when we returned.  She brought down the house.  They loved her, the snark, the cliches, the one liners, the mockery.  Am really sick of this kind of campaigning, but the public is used to it, and the Republicans went crazy.

Obama and Biden have their work cut out for them.  It is now about personality, culture, and sound bytes, just like it was with Bush.  Will it work again?  Certaninly with the true believers there in the convention hall.  I watched one woman mouth, I love her.

Here we go again, folks.