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- Al Giordano

By raehart on Sep 4, 2008 1:06 AM EDT

thinks that putting Palin on the attack was a mistake, said it solidified their base, but their base will not be enough.  Giordano is pretty savvy about politics. 

Al said "she could have been big, but instead she was small".

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/the-palin-speech#comments

 

 

 

 

 

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- There is a book out now about Charlie Dean and

By floridagal . on Sep 4, 2008 1:20 AM EDT

those who traveled with him to Australia, and more details about Laos before his death in 1974.

The woman who wrote it is a Vermonter.   There is a link to her blog and a sweet story of getting the picture of Howard and her together for the media.   Howard wrote the intro.

Sounds sad but very interesting.  She said it might fill the hole in the hearts of the Dean family, but the ending is still the same.

Book published about Charlie Dean and the journeys with his friends, and his death in Laos in 1974.

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By Annilow on Sep 4, 2008 9:26 AM EDT

Thanks for this floridagal -- you are so good about sharing Howard info.

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- Obama -- expanding his base ...

By * rdorgan on Sep 4, 2008 7:08 AM EDT

... like a good community organizer does:

 

From: David Plouffe
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 3:30 AM
To:
Subject: What you just saw



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I saw John McCain's attack squad of negative, cynical politicians. They lied about Barack Obama and Joe Biden, and they attacked you for being a part of this campaign.

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they insulted the very idea that ordinary people have a role to play in our political process.

You know that despite what John McCain and his attack squad say, everyday people have the power to build something extraordinary when we come together.

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Both Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin specifically mocked Barack's experience as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago more than two decades ago, where he worked with people who had lost jobs and been left behind when the local steel plants closed.

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Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies.

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By * rdorgan on Sep 4, 2008 7:09 AM EDT

(continued)

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And it's no surprise that, after eight years of George Bush, millions of people have found that by coming together in their local communities they can change the course of history. That promise is what our campaign has been about from the beginning.

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Community organizing is the foundation of the civil rights movement, the women's suffrage movement, labor rights, and the 40-hour workweek. And it's happening today in church basements and community centers and living rooms across America.

Meanwhile, we still haven't gotten a single idea during the entire Republican convention about the economy and how to lift a middle class so harmed by the Bush-McCain policies.

It's now clear that John McCain's campaign has decided that desperate lies and personal attacks -- on Barack Obama and on you -- are the only way they can earn a third term for the Bush policies that McCain has supported more than 90 percent of the time.

...

David

David Plouffe
Campaign Manager
Obama for America

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- up on deck today (in VA, NM, PA)

By * rdorgan on Sep 4, 2008 7:20 AM EDT

http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/virginiabeachjoe

Joe Biden in Virginia Beach

Discussion on National Security

Virginia Beach Convention Center
Hall A Entrance
1000 19th Street
Virginia Beach, Virginia

Thursday, September 4th
Doors Open: 7:30 a.m.
Program Begins: 8:45 a.m.

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http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/nmalbuquerquewfo/

Michelle Obama in Albuquerque

Join Michelle Obama in Albuquerque to celebrate the launch of Women for Obama, followed by a voter registration rally.

University of New Mexico
Student Union Building- Ballroom
Albuquerque, NM

Thursday, September 4th
Doors Open: 3:00 p.m.
Program Begins: 4:00 p.m.

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Barack Obama in Lancaster, PA

Please join us Thursday, September 4th, for an event with Barack Obama in Lancaster, PA:

Buchanan Park
Race Avenue and W. Frederick Street
Lancaster, PA

Thursday, September 4th
Gates Open: 3:00 p.m.
Program Begins 5:00 p.m.

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- NE says palin had affair with her husband's business partner..

By linda b on Sep 4, 2008 7:24 AM EDT

...what a women.

go for it. what a shill.

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- up on deck for tomorrow (in PA)

By * rdorgan on Sep 4, 2008 7:28 AM EDT

http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/langhornebidens

Joe and Jill Biden in Langhorne, PA

Please join us Friday, September 5th, for a discussion with Joe and Jill Biden in Langhorne, PA:

Maple Point Middle School
2250 Langhorne-Yardley Rd.
Langhorne, PA

Friday, September 5th
Doors Open: 12:30 p.m.
Program Begins 2:00 p.m.

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- up on deck this week (yesterday in WI, today MN, tomorrow IA, this Sat MO)

By * rdorgan on Sep 4, 2008 7:36 AM EDT

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20080903/pl_usnw/dnc__howard_dean_s__register_for_change__bus_tour_to_continue_through_wisconsin__minnesota__iowa_and_missouri

DNC: Howard Dean's 'Register for Change' Bus Tour to Continue Through Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa and Missouri

Wed Sep 3, 4:35 PM ET

WASHINGTON, Sept. 3 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Howard Dean's cross country "Register for Change" bus tour will continue to campaign through the Midwest this week. After a stop in Milwaukee, WI earlier today the tour heads to Madison, WI this afternoon. Tomorrow, the tour makes stops in Minnesota -- host state of the Republican National Convention -- before heading to Iowa and Missouri Friday and Saturday.

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THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 4

Minneapolis, MN

REGISTER FOR CHANGE VOTER REGISTRATION EVENT IN MINNEAPOLIS

Augsberg College

Urness Hall Lawn (Rain Location: Foss, Lobeck, Miles Center)

2211 Riverside Avenue South

Minneapolis, MN

Event Time: 12:30 PM

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- so Howie's gonna be in Minn on the day McCain accepts

By Jo*in*Vermont on Sep 4, 2008 8:09 AM EDT

hope he draws huge crowds (HD) and registers tons of new voters!!

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By * rdorgan on Sep 4, 2008 8:20 AM EDT

Indeed --

-- and any press that Howard gets today from the CM, will just get ole Johnie even more upset with the media.

Johnie is dealing with a lot of T's of late --

temper

twins

timing

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- Last night

By volney simmons on Sep 4, 2008 8:07 AM EDT

We shouldn't have been surprised that Palin reads a teleprompter well -- that's one of the things you learn while doing a communications degree.

I would have been shocked if she hadn't. More interesting was the use of poor little Trig. I noted that Daddy couldn't wait to dump his inert mass in Willow's arms, who then proceeded to lick her hand and groom his hair, ew. When they cut to her again and she was apparently removing "sand" from his eyes, well, quick cutaway there. And then at the end, of course, Mommy carries his poor uncomprehending self around like some kind of trophy. Well, hey, there's an upside to everything if you look for it.

I've been trying to view both conventions as if I knew nothing and had come from another planet. The GOP convention has the stink of "minority party" all over it -- too white, too old, too bored, and way too desperate.

See, the virtue of being a Democrat and actually bothering with the folks who have no money is that Democrats actually believe in the American Dream and understand all those have-nots will eventually be regularly-voting members of the middle class. What Obama's nomination is about isn't actually Obama, but the size of the African-American middle class that lifts Obama out of the status of "boutique candidate".

The GOP only want new Americans who come here with money in their pockets. When they were going on last night about the Dems "raising your taxes", they weren't lying b/c they only care to speak to people making $250k or higher. Their premise is they're talking to the middle class b/c $250k isn't what it used to be.

But inflation isn't a good strategy for growing your base. Community organizing is!

And even Annie Oakley can't stop the runaway train that's the GOP without a viable strategy to appeal to the average American.

-- volney

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- Thanks Volney

By Joan In Florida on Sep 4, 2008 8:28 AM EDT

 

Interesting insight here. I just could not watch the GOP convention much except for a brief glimpse of Olbermann. Even he blended in too much with the story of the hour though.

The opinions of everyone who are watching this GOP sad state of affairs put on stage is of great interest to me and probably others.

 

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- No Gravitas

By Tom Bearse on Sep 4, 2008 8:32 AM EDT

The same criticism leveled at George Bush that voters found immaterial, installing a president with a 60% unfavorable rating, leaving 80% of voters believing the country is on the wrong track.

Either people will understand what's going on or suffer mass amnesia, basking in the hypnotic glow of the electronic hearth.  That's what we face.

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