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... Jack London may have penned The Call of the Wild but only John McCain and Sarah Palin really know how to win an election and get their members riled up !:
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A fourth presidential debate had just been added and actually already took place last night at one of John McCain's seven homes !:
John "No Solutions" McSame still hasn't addressed Middle America's problems. Why? He has none they will like and hopes to continue to try and hide that fact for several more months.
We didn't watch the convention much last night, the first NFL football game on the season was on TV. But when we switched over during commercials, we saw a bunch of sheep cheering the continued distruction of our country. The cheering sheep are as pathetic as the lying, attacking candidates.
Long live the WC. bbl
... and they're riding (err engineering) the McCain/Palin excursion.
Americans, giddy up ?!:
http://www.animationlibrary.com/animation/22758/Mad_moose/
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- Jackson Browne has sued McCain for using Browne's song "Running On Empty" without Browne's permission ...
By * rdorgan on Sep 5, 2008 10:00 AM EDT... and now the group Heart:
http://www.boston.com/ae/music/blog/2008/09/heart_to_mccain.html?s_campaign=8315
Heart to McCain/Palin: Back off on 'Barracuda'
Posted by David Beard, Boston.com Staff
September 5, 2008 09:03 AM
The rock group Heart has sent a message to John McCain and Sarah "Barracuda'' Palin: quit playing our 1977 hit ''Barracuda.''
Soon after the presidential nominee finished his acceptance speech late Thursday and running-mate Palin joined him on the Republican National Convention stage in St. Paul, the sound system pumped the throbbing introductory guitar licks to "Barracuda.''
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Heart's Ann and Nancy Wilson
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the Wilsons condemned the usage then and earlier in the convention, adding that Universal Music Publishing and Sony BMG have sent a cease-and-desist notice to the McCain-Palin campaign, according to CNN.
UPDATE Friday morning: here's a statement by Ann and Nancy Wilson from EW.com:
"Sarah Palin's views and values in NO WAY represent us as American women. We ask that our song 'Barracuda' no longer be used to promote her image. The song 'Barracuda' was written in the late 70s as a scathing rant against the soulless, corporate nature of the music business, particularly for women. (The 'barracuda' represented the business.) While Heart did not and would not authorize the use of their song at the RNC, there's irony in Republican strategists' choice to make use of it there."
No word so far on whether the tune would be dropped from the GOP playlist.
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fix your broken window, it reflects badly on your attentiveness HQs
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/09/05/notes090508.DTL&nl=fix
I have to say, what nerve you libs have, daring to be angry at a time like this. This is a time of optimism and change! This is a time of true, red-blooded American mavericks, of hot Alaskan redneck babes and giant phallic guns and military fetishism and zero birth control, of teen pregnancy and God and freshly slaughtered moose on the dinner table!
Can't you sense the patriotism? Hell, McCain-Palin is so damn American it might as well be a McDonald's McRib sandwich dipped in Crisco and cooked over a Chevy Tahoe's exhaust pipe at a tailgate party in Kid Rock's bowels. Feel the jingoism, hippie!
You know what you should do, angry lefty? You should take a page from the Republican Convention. Just look how perky they all are, doing that incredible dance of the true blind American, completely blocking out the pain and misprision of their party's leadership
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... waiting for my breakfast order and looked over at the newstand papers. One of them is The Boston Herald (a conservative rag, nothing like the mainstream The Boston Globe) and on it's cover was in big letters Big Mac, with a picture of a thumbs up smiling John McCain.
Thank God the lunch menu wasn't being served yet -- Big Macs are dry as hell.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/signfire/2588141789/
John McCain Voted 95% Like Bush In The Years Before The Election

- the real Americans are pushing back at McSame, ie. McMoose ...
By * rdorgan on Sep 5, 2008 10:35 AM EDThttp://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gG5rxL/commentary
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I've been here two weeks and opposite of my time in Seattle, I've laid low with the politics and have been very intimidated by these people. I was a delegate in Seattle and have found that, the more I overhear these people, I am SO much more informed than they are! They cling to statements like "country first" and have no concept that maybe a democrat----Barack Obama no less might feel the same way!!!
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Sarah Palin's speech only motivated me to donate more money to the campaign and after tonight's speech by John McCain I am ready to get out there and introduce Coronado to this Starbucks sippin', country lovin', VETERAN NAVY NURSE, Pacific Northwest lovin', stay-at-home military wife!!!
I'm going to wear my Obama shirt proudly to drop my kids off and will go to the gym on the base (via John McCain Blvd no less) and work out! Then, I'm going to get involved with the Obama campaign here in California.
I'm renewed and fired up! Thank you republicans for reminding me what is at stake and why we all have to get out there and make a difference.
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"Country First" - great mantra (feel Rove's touch?).
"Country", "motherhood", "patriotism" etc.!
Iran is waiting, Iraq is calm and silent, Europe is bending as much as it can, Russia swallows whatever been offered in the Black See.
All of these to pacify bunch of thugs in hope that in 2 month something might change for the better.
Now, think Munich and imagine reckoning time!
that it is the Republicans who are in power, who John McCain voted with 90 percent of the time throughout his career and 95 percent of the time this year. He voted against expanding health benefits for veterans with the argument that it would deter them from re-enlisting.
Let's not forget that Sarah (supporter of exceptional child benefits) cut benefits for exceptional children by 60 percent.
In my snarky opinion, Sarah Palin is reminisicent of a "Back Woods Valley Girl" with the same personality characteristics of snottiness, sarcasm, self-centeredness, ignorance, and pushiness. She's not honest, and checking the facts will show that. Fun to watch and listen to her, but as vice president, president? NOOOOO.
Obama has criticized McCain and the Republican party, but with a difference. He doesn't demean them; whereas the republicans slander and lie about Obama. What ever happened to honesty in this country?
The Chicago Tribune reported that the airplane being sold on ebay by Palin was in fact NOT SOLD ON EBAY. This along with her support of The Bridge to Nowhere which she was for before she was against is adding to the pack of lies that is Sarah Palin.
Are these people for real? Will the American people be fooled again? Andrew Sullivan said let's hope the reporters do their constitutional duty this time.
From Matt Stoller: Hilarious -- why are Republicans so *in your face*?
hilarious. on a full plane out of the twin cities, loaded with republicans. no matter how often the crew says to be mindful of space, people keep taking extra room in the overhead compartments, putting bags sideways, laying out suitbags, putting computers above instead of under seats. and they dont know how to resolve it, since they sort of respect each other's expansionist real estate instincts. |
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- Did anyone count how many times McCain said "fight" last night?
By Fred from Oregon on Sep 5, 2008 11:58 AM EDTHe's lucky to be alive.
What we did in Viet Nam was shameful. Much more shameful than what we are doing in Iraq.
We killed over 2 million people with bombs, fire bombs mostly innocent civilians. There is nothing heroic about Viet Nam.
We had no real reason to go in. Gulf of Tonkin crisis was fabricated by USA to start a war. Nothing was accomplish. There was no real objective.
All we did was kill people for no good reason. Millions of people. McCain should be ashamed to be part of that.
An alleged affair between the Klondike Governor and her hubby's former biz. partner? Well, guess what? Breaking news that the former biz. partner has filed an emergency action to have his divorce papers sealed.
What a mockery this election has become. No wonder you won't see Barack or Joe go after Sarah Palin. She's a trainwreck. Will the mean liberal Democrats be blamed for her indiscretions making it to the news?
... and puts blinders on, just like they did in 1992:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/090508.html
McCain-Palin: 'Phonies Squared'
By Robert Parry
September 5, 2008
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Chastened Press Corps
However, after a few raps on their knuckles for trying to vet Palin’s record, major U.S. news outlets have fallen into line behind the dual McCain-Palin myths of reform and peace, much as they did in 2000 in helping to sell George W. Bush as a regular-guy, “compassionate” conservative.
With their blinders on, most Big Media pundits saw no disconnect between McCain presiding over a convention marked by a heavy dose of partisan ridicule toward Barack Obama and the Democrats – and then pitching himself as a paragon of bipartisan civility who despises “partisan rancor.”
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Though barely noted by the political press corps, the St. Paul, Minnesota, convention was more like the infamous Houston convention in 1992 during which militant right-wing Republicans, led by Pat Buchanan, advocated “cultural wars” against their enemies on the Left.
In St. Paul, the overwhelmingly white convention delegates hooted and booed at almost every mocking reference to Obama, the first African-American nominee of a major party. Plus, there were many reminders of the strategies of Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew who won votes by stirring up resentments toward supposed “elitists.”
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Wow. It gets worse - Rasmussen reports that *Americans love Palin*. We are living in an alternate universe and I feel sick to my stomach. Just sick. Our country hasn't learned a thing - not a damned thing.
At this stage I do believe Barack and Joe need to take the gloves off - not dirty - just let her have it.
...hilarious front pager on KOS that the 'green screen' was grass in front of a pix of Walter Reed (which he wasn't talking about at the time) - only problem - it was Walter Reed Middle School in California...
Todd Palin's former business partner files an emergency motion to have his divorce papers sealed. Oh God.
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... but I don't see McCain/Palin winning on 11/04/08 and their loss won't even be close to Obama/Biden's win.
I think that Obama and Biden and their handlers, and surrogates (Howard and even Hillary) are applying the right amount of fuel to the campaign engine.
Time and time again, in this last 19 months, there have been individuals and groups yelling to Obama "hit the gas and attack, lest you stall out" and others equally yelling to him "let up on the gas, otherwise you'll turn off voters, lest you flood the engine".
IMO I'm not underestimating McCain and Palin and their handlers, and surrogates and neither is Obama and Biden.
The CM will be the biggest losers on 11/04/08, when once again, they are proven wrong with their predictions, their cowering, etc.
GOTV and TOTT (turn off the tv) !
For the good of the country, we need a win by such a margin, that the neocons will lose their grip on the GOP, and there will be a REAL revolution in their party.
Fred -
Indeed.
My predictions (as stated upthread) -- 11/04/08 election results of 60 % Obama/Biden to 40 % McCain/Palin .
Minus a few %age points from both campaigns that would go to Nader and to Barr.
But the MSM pundits on Charlie Rose are predicting a close race with the base "energized" with the Palin splash.
Halpern is acting like a giddy Republican
I sincerely hope that you are right, but I think it will be close enough for the repugs to steal it.
... for example, today Howard is in IA, on the Register for Change bus tour, registering new voters.
Zilch, nada in all online search engines for any news about his activity -- an activity that is accomplishing more and has deeper long-term roots than 40 miliion curious minds that tune in to see McCain speak and the night before Palin speak.
The Obama/Dean biathlon reminds of a slow, tedious, incremental trudging through muddy swamps and a relentless sun beating down on their shells, but in the end, they come out winners -- the tortoises of 2008.
and maybe I'm freed up from the shackles of TV bobble-headedness because all I get is basic cable (get basic because it's needed for better reception than rabbit ears) -- no CNN, MSNBC, etc. and I work a second job in the evenings, so miss the 6 pm non-cable network news and am too tired to watch the 11 pm news.
I look online by keywords in search engines, like shuffling through a newspaper, online I ignore just going to CNN and MSNBC in general and search for the news that I'm interested in.
The only cable I wish I could include with my basic cable would be CSpan.
...This composer was known as the 'Sebelius of Denmark.' Name the composer. (No not the Sominex woman :~))
Litigation attorneys are fond of jury trials because certain jury error gives them an avenue of appeal they would not have with a bench trial if they disagree with a verdict.
Having served on two juries, I tend not to place much trust in the rational or intellectual prowess of a group of nine people selected at random to come to the right decision in a criminal or civil matter. Still, research supports the theory that in the majority of cases, juries tend to reach what could be described as "correct" or "right" decisions, meaning logically explainable decisions, despite their relative lack of sophistication regarding legal matters. It's suggested that these random groups tend to include a cross section of people, having varying degrees of intelligence and perceptiveness, that produce a rationale, common sense result more often than not.
I think it is reasonable to assume the same of the electorate (continued).
Our experience, our conversations with emotional, irrational, and ideogically hidebound voters, may give us the depressing sense that people will succumb to the anti-intellectual appeals made by Republicans.
But despite this, there is sufficient evidence to me, anecdotal and in polling results, that the majority of voters will 1) take the election seriously, and 2) make an honest assessment of the candidates that takes into account the deplorable economic and international situations the U.S. finds itself in, as a consequence of the policies and practices of the loathsome administration currently in power, and the lemming like quality of Republicans who embrace these policies. It's not a foolproof plan, but it does provide a foundation for hope.
What else is necessary to determine it is too restrictive? The limit is supposed to be imposed on a trial basis. We don't know what the criterion will be to reach a decision on its utility but many, many users have complained it's too short. As far as I can tell, this opinion is universal.
The question hasn't been put to any kind of vote. Short of one, how are we to get it increased? Do you want us to mount some kind of online campaign or something? If so, I'm starting one.
Be careful with your campaign Tom -- you could get a 'one warning only' letter from the powers that be that you are indulging in hate speech and there will be no other warning...these guys don't believe in votes -- it is a top down organization -- no offense HQ...
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