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- Howard is the first and 4most!

By puddle on Oct 28, 2009 1:21 AM EDT

 And I beg to disagree with the usual suspects: a bill with a trigger, opt out or what have you is infinitely better than no bill at all.  A "bill" you can tinker with; nothing, you wait another decade or two.

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- Howard

By seashell on Oct 28, 2009 3:32 AM EDT

doesn't support a trigger, nor should we.  A trigger is another way to permanently kill HC.

puddle, thanks for the info on the evening thread.  I'll pass it on to Walter.

And you don't have to beg us to differ.  :-)

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Here's some late night humor:

KABUL, Afghanistan — Ahmed Wali Karzai, the brother of the Afghan president and a suspected player in the country’s booming illegal opium trade, gets regular payments from the Central Intelligence Agency, and has for much of the past eight years, according to current and former American officials. The agency pays Mr. Karzai for a variety of services, including helping to recruit an Afghan paramilitary force .....more

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- I heard Howard say that a bill with an opt out is good

By Jo*in*Vermont on Oct 28, 2009 8:00 AM EDT

isn't that what they're considering now rather than a trigger?

 

re: CIA - I'm pretty sure they will have much more to disclose - it won't be easy to clean up the messes (atrocities?) they've made but at least Panetta is releasing the info now.  it will be interesting to see how they deal with the 'bro'!

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- It would be better without either.

By Phil Specht on Oct 28, 2009 8:31 AM EDT

we have to get the bill to the floor

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- agreed

By Jo*in*Vermont on Oct 28, 2009 10:01 AM EDT

we get it to the floor and it's a new ballgame, imo.  or had better be!!

Howard's human and has made many mistakes I'm sure, same as all of us.  I was just replying to the comment about 'what he says'.

I also did not see any 'humor' in the cia payouts to that sleezeball brother of Karzai's.

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- That doesn't mean he's right

By SofiaDad on Oct 28, 2009 8:57 AM EDT

Heck, I'm willing to bet that that he had a misdiagnosis once or twice, also.

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- Health Care Reform ?

By Luther Biggs on Oct 28, 2009 3:12 AM EDT

 

       

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- Health Care Reform ?

By Luther Biggs on Oct 28, 2009 3:34 AM EDT

 

       

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By seashell on Oct 28, 2009 3:36 AM EDT
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By Phil Specht on Oct 28, 2009 8:28 AM EDT

Tom had that link earlier. It was a good one.

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By seashell on Oct 28, 2009 3:41 AM EDT

Source: CNN MONEY

If a proposed 21% cut in payment rates goes through in 2010, it could spark a physician boycott against new enrollees


Medicare has become a scary word to the doctors at the largest private group practice in Kansas City, Mo.

It's so scary that most physicians at Kansas City Internal Medicine, with 65% of its nearly 70,000 active patients age 65 or older, have stopped accepting walk-in Medicare enrollees, said Dr. David Wilt, an internist at the group.

Wilt and his colleagues say they are shunning the area's growing senior population because they believe Medicare doesn't reimburse physicians enough to cover the cost of care.

"And if Medicare further cuts its reimbursement rates, then we'll be functioning at a loss," said Wilt.

Wilt -- and doctors with lots of senior patients -- are especially troubled by a 21% cut in Medicare payments to physicians scheduled to take place in 2010. Last week, the Senate voted against stopping that cut, and more annual cuts over the next decade, from taking place.

"If the (21%) cut happens, that cut in our payments will exceed our profits. The only option to us to stay in business will be to fire employees," Wilt said.

Physicians say a boycott against Medicare has already begun because they are tired of dealing with the yearly threat of a payment cut.



Read more: http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/27/news/economy/healthcare...

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- Hi, Luther!

By seashell on Oct 28, 2009 3:42 AM EDT
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By seashell on Oct 28, 2009 3:57 AM EDT

Oversight panel: Government was slow on H1N1 threat

By William Douglas | McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON — The federal government's preparedness for the H1N1, or swine flu, pandemic that's claimed for more than 1,000 lives nationwide was inadequate and incomplete, a congressional subcommittee said Tuesday.

Both Democratic and Republican members of the subcommittee stopped short of blaming President Barack Obama's administration, but they made it clear that they expect improved handling of the pandemic in the near future.  

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"Our early warning and detection systems were inadequate," said Rep. Yvette Clark, D-N.Y., the subcommittee's chairwoman. "Some key planning activities were incomplete; we didn't have a good approach to provide health care under pandemic conditions; and levels of preparedness for pandemic influenza were unclear. Unfortunately, our failure to develop these systems, activities and policies cost us during the response."

g'nite and Hu Jo, thank for the kudos on the earlier thread.  (Sssshhhh!  We mustn't tell anyone that I pay you to say nice things about my posts.  :-)

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- re: (Sssshhhh! We mustn't tell anyone that I pay you to say nice things about my posts. :-)

By Jo*in*Vermont on Oct 28, 2009 8:04 AM EDT

I'm still waiting for you to get thru a whole day without whining because we don't roll over and agree with everything you post here.  history doesn't bode well for a short wait...  ;)

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- I'll take the Obama approach

By Phil Specht on Oct 28, 2009 8:21 AM EDT

don't forget the Cheney approach to bird flu was planning to mobilize the military and shut down the airports and set up roadblocks with orders to shoot to kill

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- meanwhile Rummy upped his stock shares in Tamiflu

By Phil Specht on Oct 28, 2009 8:23 AM EDT

how soon we forget

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- out of control costs are the biggest threat to our economy

By Phil Specht on Oct 28, 2009 8:36 AM EDT

and though Congress will never allow draconian cuts my feeling is that sometimes when a runaway stage coach is headed towards main street a Tom Mix has to shoot the lead horse

my main complaint about the healthcare reform is it hasn't met that challenge head on

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